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Old 08-06-2007, 06:01 PM
bigslicknuts bigslicknuts is offline
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Default NL50: JJ against raise, Donk low flop?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $24.10
BB: $57.35
UTG: $48.95
UTG+1: $32.05
MP1: $11.55
MP2: $58.75
MP3: $100.85
CO: $54.95
BTN: $45.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">MP1 raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, Hero calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
Hero ??

Is this a flop I should donk or check to see what the raiser does?
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:07 PM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: NL50: JJ against raise, Donk low flop?

You should shove preflop as a squeeze...
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Old 08-06-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: NL50: JJ against raise, Donk low flop?

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You should shove preflop as a squeeze...

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Indeed. JJ is not a good hand at all to play with 3 others (and potentially 2 more) in the pot.

As stated, shove it all in. You’ll probably get one caller at most and could indeed take it down right there and build up your stack. It's also improbable that anyone has you beat right there, so your hand will probably be a favorite even if you are called.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: NL50: JJ against raise, Donk low flop?

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You should shove preflop as a squeeze...

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Really? This play definitely is not in my arsenal, but I guess I can see why it could be right due to stack sizes.. Is this play something that is a necessary part of my arsenal, or primarily only for shortstackers? Both my semishort stack and his short stack have to be taken into account right?
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:29 PM
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Default Re: NL50: JJ against raise, Donk low flop?

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You should shove preflop as a squeeze...

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Really? This play definitely is not in my arsenal, but I guess I can see why it could be right due to stack sizes.. Is this play something that is a necessary part of my arsenal?

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If you're gonna play half stack it is. The reason it's push only is because you can't possibly walk away from the pot if you put in a reasonable raise here and you'll be playing OOP .
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: NL50: JJ against raise, Donk low flop?

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You should shove preflop as a squeeze...

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Really? This play definitely is not in my arsenal, but I guess I can see why it could be right due to stack sizes.. Is this play something that is a necessary part of my arsenal?

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If you're gonna play half stack it is. The reason it's push only is because you can't possibly walk away from the pot if you put in a reasonable raise here and you'll be playing OOP .

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It should be a part of your arsenal regardless of the size stack you play...I'll usually make it $10 or $12 to go in the spot. Are you taking a shot at a higher level or what? I recommend playing a full stack at .10/.25 if not. It is very soft.
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Old 08-06-2007, 09:40 PM
A_C_Slater A_C_Slater is offline
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Default Re: NL50: JJ against raise, Donk low flop?

Yeah the preflop pot is 25% of your stack. A squeeze with JJ+ and AK is good whenever the pot is 25% or more of stack. Maybe just raise pot with AA though.
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Old 08-06-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: NL50: JJ against raise, Donk low flop?

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You should shove preflop as a squeeze...

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Really? This play definitely is not in my arsenal, but I guess I can see why it could be right due to stack sizes.. Is this play something that is a necessary part of my arsenal, or primarily only for shortstackers? Both my semishort stack and his short stack have to be taken into account right?

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yea, this would be the best play with your stack size. As played CRAI I guess.
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