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Old 08-05-2007, 10:11 PM
BingBangBoom BingBangBoom is offline
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Default Tricky Spot with KK

Villan seems to be pretty tight, maybe even a rock. Knowing that am i to assume he only holds TT or a 3 here when getting aggressive (not sure what the minraise meant but helped me narrow his range non the less)? By checking the river I kinda have to call the shove right? Was my line pretty standard or would any of you advise a different line? I appreciate any input.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($53.15)
SB ($34.25)
BB ($66)
UTG ($24)
UTG+1 ($24.70)
Hero ($62.75)
MP2 ($47.75)
MP3 ($81.20)
CO ($11.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($8.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $8</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($24.25) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12.

River: ($48.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30.65 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $30.65.

Final Pot: $109.55
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:44 PM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: Tricky Spot with KK

If you dont plan on ever folding, why are you taking such a pansy line?
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:49 PM
wulfpacker21 wulfpacker21 is offline
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Default Re: Tricky Spot with KK

i re raise flop, as played on the flop c/r that turn... he could have JJ, QQ here easily
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:51 PM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Re: Tricky Spot with KK

Looking at his stack, c-raising him all in as opposed to calling it on the river.
Looks fine, and I dont see why he can play some other hands this way as well.
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Old 08-05-2007, 11:03 PM
BingBangBoom BingBangBoom is offline
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Default Re: Tricky Spot with KK

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If you dont plan on ever folding, why are you taking such a pansy line?

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Point taken...i just knew this guy was a rock so I was unsure and felt WAWB
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:02 AM
CalledDownLight CalledDownLight is offline
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Default Re: Tricky Spot with KK

CRAI on the turn. If he's a rock he never has a 3. As played through the turn shove the river yourself. Basic zeebo theorem at that point.
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Tricky Spot with KK

River is an easy shove as played.
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Old 08-06-2007, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Tricky Spot with KK

Not tricky at all, you (inadvertantly) let him hang himself with AT, or value bet himself out of a stack with QQ/JJ... or let 44 get ya. If all you're worried about is TT or 44 because AA is impossible (woulda raised), and your hand is obviously underrepped by the river, its an easy call.

Fine if you do it on purpose (rocks are aggressive with good hands, right?). Nothing wrong with standard turn shove though.
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Old 08-06-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Tricky Spot with KK

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CRAI on the turn. If he's a rock he never has a 3. As played through the turn shove the river yourself. Basic zeebo theorem at that point.

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What's zeebo theorem?
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