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Old 08-05-2007, 02:39 PM
Babalatexi Babalatexi is offline
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Default NL 20 KK facing 4-bet pf

Villain is 26.8/7.3/1.6 (apparently playing 9 tables) after 600 hands. Have no notes of him going out of line. Would anyone ever fold this?

B2B No Limit Hold'em Cashgame
Blinds: €0,10 / €0,20
Players: 5

Button (€26,30)
SB - Hero (€20,10)
BB - Villain (€26,01)
UTG (€20,54)
CO (€15,51)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to €0,75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to €2,40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Villain goes all-in for €25,81</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero says "argh" and shoves
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:44 PM
BishopsFinger BishopsFinger is offline
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Default Re: NL 20 KK facing 4-bet pf

absolutely fine to call here.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: NL 20 KK facing 4-bet pf

I'd possibly lay down QQ but KK is getting felted here.
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Old 08-05-2007, 02:59 PM
Babalatexi Babalatexi is offline
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Default Re: NL 20 KK facing 4-bet pf

By the way, I have no idea what he had since I hit a K and he mucked. I know I could never fold here myself but was just wondering whether or not I should do it in a vaccuum. Does villain's range consist of anything else than AA more than 40% of the time (note that he's a reg even though his stats are somewhat peculiar)?
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:01 PM
UFGatorGuy UFGatorGuy is offline
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Default Re: NL 20 KK facing 4-bet pf

lol, at these stakes I've seen this be anywhere from 77-AA and AJs+, AQo+. It will usually be on the higher end of this range with a 27/7, but this is never ever ever a fold. Like, the possibility wouldn't even cross my mind once.
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Old 08-05-2007, 03:02 PM
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lol, at these stakes I've seen this be anywhere from 77-AA and AJs+, AQo+. It will usually be on the higher end of this range with a 27/7, but this is never ever ever a fold. Like, the possibility wouldn't even cross my mind once.

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Old 08-05-2007, 05:29 PM
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Default Re: NL 20 KK facing 4-bet pf

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By the way, I have no idea what he had since I hit a K and he mucked.

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If you're curious you can check what he mucked either by looking up the hand history on the skin you're playing on, or looking up the hand history on your HD if you've enabled logging of hand histories (which I assume you have since you're posting PT stats.)

Knowing what I know about the microstakes at B2B I have to say a shove is 100% fine even though his PFR stats are somewhat tight.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:36 PM
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He had AA. What's funny is that after the hand, another regular sitting at the table told me (in Finnish) that the guy probably had AA as he had seen him do this move before with the nuts.

In conclusion, against this particular villain, perhaps his range for 4-bet all-in is mostly AA while others probably have wider ranges.
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Old 08-05-2007, 06:32 PM
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another regular sitting at the table told me (in Finnish) that the guy probably had AA

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So, what's AA in finnish? [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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