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Old 08-01-2007, 12:00 PM
SneakyFerret SneakyFerret is offline
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Default Stars 6.50 - Common AK spot check

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1360)
UTG+1 (t2550)
MP1 (t1370)
MP2 (t400)
MP3 (t1390)
CO (t2095)
Button (t1455)
SB (t1410)
Hero (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls t30, <font color="red">MP1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP3 folds</font>, CO calls t120, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="gray">SB folds</font>, Hero calls t90, UTG+1 calls t90

Flop: (t495) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">MP1 bets t180</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Stars 6.50 - Common AK spot check

Reraise all-in preflop. The pot is 315. Just shove it.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:23 PM
Kraiger5 Kraiger5 is offline
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Default Re: Stars 6.50 - Common AK spot check

Yeah, I shove preflop too. 315 is nearly 25% of your stack, the usual amount I want/need in the pot to shove.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: Stars 6.50 - Common AK spot check

Meh i have no clue how bad 6.50s are, how likely is CO going to call you with AQ-AT? 66? KQ? Seems like its a standard range problem.

My default line here is to play the same as OP, but at lower limits shoving probably is better since their calling range includes much more dominated hands
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: Stars 6.50 - Common AK spot check

Calling is fine, it still depends on the player in a 6.5 but shove is default.
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Stars 6.50 - Common AK spot check

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Meh i have no clue how bad 6.50s are, how likely is CO going to call you with AQ-AT? 66? KQ? Seems like its a standard range problem.

My default line here is to play the same as OP, but at lower limits shoving probably is better since their calling range includes much more dominated hands

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See, my thought is that shoving here leaves us in a CF situation a lot of the time, and this early on, don't we want to avoid CFs, as to use ICM when the blinds get big?
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:38 PM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: Stars 6.50 - Common AK spot check

It's been discussed all over. Yes you don't want to flip but you don't want to throw away something like a 57/43 edge or something similar. If you think you are closer to a 60/40 vs his range then you should be shoving. Of course this is if he is always calling, any FE you have only makes the decision easier.
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: Stars 6.50 - Common AK spot check

I have been called AIPF in 6.50s by 10j and jq type hands more times than I can count. The more I think about it the more I like a push, people looooove to call in 6.50s

Unfortunately they will also call with a lot of PPs as low as 5s, im not quite sure how that affects their range.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:23 PM
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I have been called AIPF in 6.50s by 10j and jq type hands more times than I can count. The more I think about it the more I like a push, people looooove to call in 6.50s

Unfortunately they will also call with a lot of PPs as low as 5s, im not quite sure how that affects their range.

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55 would help us. AKo v 88+,ATs+,KTs+,QJs,AJo+,KQo is 57/43ish. This is assuming no FE though, so you should really almost always be shoving except vs a really tight opponent in a 6.5
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