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Old 08-01-2007, 11:57 AM
gulisoff gulisoff is offline
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Default TPTK overplay

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $6.35
BB: $13.75
UTG: $12.70
UTG+1: $8.90
MP1: $10.15
MP2: $4.30
CO: $8.50
Hero (BTN): $9.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8 Players)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, SB calls $0.45, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.60) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.00</font>, SB calls $1.00, UTG+1 calls $1.00

Turn: ($4.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $6.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($17.60) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets all-in for $0.90</font>, Hero calls $0.90

Pot Size: $19.40 ($1.90 Rake)

UTG+1 had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Kings full of Eights) and WON (+$8.60)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Eights) and LOST (-$8.90)

FT vilinas are usualy donks, their raise means monster most times, but still how should play hands like this? less agresiv?against 2 villians,1?
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:45 PM
DaveTheClueless DaveTheClueless is offline
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Default Re: TPTK overplay

What range did you have him limping on pf and smooth-calling you raise? That was an unconventional play.

Did you consider what his turn check-raise implied? What hands can he be check-raising with here that you either already have beat or have any kind of re-draw against?

Of course call $.90 on the river into a $18.50 pot. Crying call, yeah, but really... just be glad you both didn't have more money on the table.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:46 PM
XHitman014 XHitman014 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK overplay

You played it fine, you really can't fold getting 2 to 1 on the turn. He really butchered his hand PF.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:50 PM
hunt1897 hunt1897 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK overplay

You played it fine (maybe bet a little more on flop), these are the type of Villians you want to play against.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:50 PM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: TPTK overplay

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You played it fine, you really can't fold getting 2 to 1 on the turn. He really butchered his hand PF.

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c/c c/r is a sick line after a smoothcall PF, you can't be feeling rosy about TPTK even with 2-1. You're usually behind to AA, 2 pair or a set with a c/c c/r line. and don't have 33% equity.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:52 PM
monkeymaps monkeymaps is offline
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Default Re: TPTK overplay

yeah his stack size is such that I guess you kind of have to pay him off. LOL at leaving himself .90 for the river.
Hands like this piss me off cause when I look back at it I think well there is not much he c/r's the turn with that I beat. But at the time I think ah im priced in blah blah basicly it seems like you did nothing wrong and villian played his hand like a totall donk but the bet sizing is such that you have to pay him off lol just sucks I guess.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:59 PM
danny8 danny8 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK overplay

you're pretty much always behind on the turn... im useless at calculating odds but doesnt it cost $3.5 to win the $~14 in the pot? thats 4:1 no? dunno if we can fold there
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