2/4 river overbet and his hand is pretty much face-up

[Jay Riall]

No HH since Pokertracker is being gay ([censored] Windows Vista can suck a f*ck as far as I'm concerned) so bear with me.

6-handed Party $400NL

Villain opens from CO for $14, I call the BB with KsQs.

Flop ($30) A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I check he checks behind.

Turn ($30) 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet $23, he calls after a few seconds.

River ($76) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet $110......

Villain is a pretty decent TAG by the looks of it, maybe a little straightforward, 23/19 or so, we don't have much history since I haven't been playing 2/4 long. Seems pretty obvious to me on the turn what his handrange is, question is can I move him off it with this overbet? I realise this is very villain dependant, but is it good vs a relatively unknown, but probably good TAG?

[wpr101]

I think that a normal bet of around 60 is a better option. Just because that river completed no hands, it's unlikely you have a 2. 44 could make sense for you though.

In general, the overbet is going to confuse him and that leads people to make calls sometimes.

[Fonkey123]

I don't really like it. No one folds an ace here, and probably not even a jack.

[Jay Riall]

Don't most 2+2ers think overbet = nuts usually though? I could definitely have Aces Up, 22, 44 in this spot. I experimented with betting 2/3-3/4 pot on rivers like this, but I don't think its good, I got looked up by QQ/KK/Ax/Jx loads.

[Fonkey123]

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Don't most 2+2ers think overbet = nuts usually though? I could definitely have Aces Up, 22, 44 in this spot. I experimented with betting 2/3-3/4 pot on rivers like this, but I don't think its good, I got looked up by QQ/KK/Ax/Jx loads.

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There's just so few combos of hands you're repping. AJ repops button raise a decent portion, any other ace is chopping, only a couple combos of 22/44 and A4/A2 probably folds pre.

[Jay Riall]

Oops, most Aces weren't chopping on the river, think it was the 6 or something. Edited OP

[JackAll]

Am I wrong, or is his range here QQ/KK/JXs/A-rag?

[aislephive]

I actually like it because yeah, thinking players generally give credit to overbets.

[jfish]

go 2x pot.

[Jay.]

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Hand: I like.