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Old 07-31-2007, 01:01 AM
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Default FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $162.90
BB: $240.25
UTG: $67.25
Hero (CO): $103.50
BTN: $127.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, 2 folds, BB calls $1.00

Flop: ($4.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $4.50</font>, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($13.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $13.50</font>, Hero calls $13.50

River: ($40.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets...</font>

Do you guys value bet this river, and if so for how much? Villain is a 20/10/1.29. F/T/R aggression factors are 4.4/4/3 respectively. He seems like a bad TAG, but he has a lot of money on the couple tables I have with him.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

Don't minraise PF NOOOOOB!

As played, this is a thin value bet, can be KQ here a lot, you are probably only getting value from QT and JT

i think i like a check behind here. even though it might be a little weak
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

Seems too thin unless he can put you on one of the busted draws and call with JT or something. I would check usually.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

I guess you can bet, but only b/c of the minraise pf, putting the low KxXd hands in his range. If you had potted pf, I like a check, since the only real hands he could have that we beat that may call a bet are JT/QT.
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

oh, and how can each street agf be more than his total?
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

With size of the pot, I can see a value bet here of like 25, but like Noyles said the only hand that looks you up in the QT/JT here. But that spot does come up enough to merit a bet here I think.

PS. I'm assuming PF was a misclick???
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:03 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

Nah.. check. He checks some better hands on this river and it's a tough call with worse.

The aggression factor thing is because it includes preflop.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

hmmm, my PT and hud show pf agf too. How do you turn that off?
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

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Nah.. check. He checks some better hands on this river and it's a tough call with worse.


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Old 07-31-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: FTP NL100 - Value bet this river?

pf was a misclick. my damn bet pot script didnt kick in fast enough and i was 8-tabling.

fwiw, villain is the same guy in tripledrawrocks' thread...and TDR coincidentally is one of my roommates, living with me, manchild (who posted above) and AMT (another random 2p2er)
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