11$ NL(T)TRN, Q8o 3bet pf OOP turns OERFD

[hra146]

Im not sure whether this is extreme butchering or standard, you tell me.

Villain seemed loose passive, does raise pf however. So far maybe minraised twice (I folded to both).

Generally I 3bet minraisers relatively lightly and found it to be quite handy. Comments on all streets appreciated.

edit: okay I asked pokerstove about some scenarios and shoving this turn is dreadful. c/rai? c/c for odds? c/f?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1650
hero: t1350

Pre-flop: (2 players) hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to t180</font>, SB calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t195)</font>.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t360, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero bets t290</font>, SB calls t290 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t650)</font>.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t940, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">hero is all-in t880</font>

[bbbushu]

if you check, will villain probably shove? i would be inclined to check/call because i doubt our shove gets called by any non-straight or non-flush hand. if two-pair or even a set called here i would be pretty surprised, given the awful pot odds.

any hand that calls us is way ahead, so isn't this what you all call "turning our hand into a bluff"?

i don't know about preflop, i doubt i'd ever three-bet Q8o and certainly not against a loose player.

bbbushu

[derosnec]

i wouldn't 3bet that light at the $11s (Q8o is junk). opponents are mentally challenged and will call alot and you'll be out of position in a big pot against people who don't how to fold.

if you're having success 3betting minraisers, i think it's temporary. people just don't like to fold at the 11s, at least from what i remember.

[BCM11]

this is bad spewy turn bet. you are turning your hand into a bluff. stick to abc poker at $11 and watch your money grow.