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Old 01-20-2007, 03:26 PM
yad yad is offline
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Default KK deep and 4bet pre

200NL. Villain is dombasas, a mediocre nitty multitabling regular, seems decent but not at all great. I have him at like 16/8/2 over around 600 hands.

This is might be more or less standard, but I still kinda hate it. Comments on all streets appreciated.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $198.05
UTG+1: $416.35
CO: $97.25
Hero: $400
SB: $211.60
BB: $16.30

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $23</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $52</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($107, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $74</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($255, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($255, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $111</font>
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:29 PM
Dan Bitel Dan Bitel is offline
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Default Re: KK deep and 4bet pre

Looks pretty good.

By the river...sure as hell looks like he has QQ....And most cant fold it here given the action
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: KK deep and 4bet pre

Looks like he has QQ. That is pretty much the only hand you beat that he could be holding. He isn't 4 betting AK PF here. And you have KK, so him holding the same hand is fairly unlikely. I like the bet. I think he calls here and you get shown QQ quite a bit.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:31 PM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: KK deep and 4bet pre

actually it looks like another KK

I can't see him checking river with AA but he's a nit and they find ways to become nittier, so possibly
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:45 PM
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Default Re: KK deep and 4bet pre

does anyone bet the turn (and obviously not put any more money in the pot after that)?
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:48 PM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: KK deep and 4bet pre

I think turn is pot control time

last thing we're worried about is a draw from him, he's narrowed his range down verrry narrow
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: KK deep and 4bet pre

I don't know how you guys can be that confident in your reads that he has QQ here to push. Yeah QQ makes sense, but you have to be spot on with your read to make this profitable. I check the river.

Also, I think you should push on this flop.

Sorry, didn't realize stack sizes... I still think a river check.
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: KK deep and 4bet pre

I think checking the river and betting are very close. Youre only getting value out of QQ. Tough to say, I'd check. I think its close to EV neutral
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:55 PM
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reesults?
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Old 01-21-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: KK deep and 4bet pre

wp imo.
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