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Old 07-28-2007, 09:40 PM
74o_Clownsuit 74o_Clownsuit is offline
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Default 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

Alright, last one for the day I promise.

Villain is a station so far, 50/10/1.7 but only over 60 hands. I should have a taggy image (if he's even paying attention to that).

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $194.70
BB: $287.95
Clown (UTG): $200.00
CO: $126.95
BTN: $105.00

Preflop: Clown is dealt A J (5 Players)
<font color="red">Clown raises to $7.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $7.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 2 (2 Players)
<font color="red">Clown bets $12.00</font>, BTN calls $12.00

Turn: ($41) T (2 Players)
<font color="red">Clown bets $25.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $50.00</font>, Clown???
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Old 07-28-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

well seing as hes a station how could this be anything but call?
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:01 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

looks like a call and then see river.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:02 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

Bah. Given the current pot and stack sizes, just shove and pray. I think the turn bet commits you, honestly. Given the pot, you need 30% equity which you should have with your draw. Sucks though.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:04 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

Why not just call and c/f the river if you whiff and save the 36 bucks?
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:10 PM
Fistdantilus Fistdantilus is offline
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

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Why not just call and c/f the river if you whiff and save the 36 bucks?

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Because the pot will be laying you 4:1 on the river, and will you really fold for that price if you hit an ace or jack? Heck, the times he shows up with 9c8c or air nearly make up for it. For a smallish amount more you catch his bluffs and missed draws. I honestly think that the rest of it going in has slightly more value than the first $50 going in this street.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

I would c/c the turn. He has Kx/sets way too often to try and double barrel here.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

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I would c/c the turn. He has Kx/sets way too often to try and double barrel here.

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WTF, Villain is 50/10 and you think he calls this flop with a nitty range?

Lol.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

I dont like the turn bet eihter, but thats not because he has a nitty range but because he has such a wide range. And unfortunately we are behind this very wide range with Ahigh.

vs Mr call I would say just check turn, call a reasonable bet or fold if he bets big. But getting raised there is like the worst thing that can happen.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Whiffed Hand Turns into Draw on the Turn

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And unfortunately we are behind this very wide range with Ahigh.

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We are not value betting.
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