$10/$20 really dumb turn spot

[catcher193]

Villian is Empire2000 (Roman on here I think) plays kinda laggy

This is like the most obvious bluff card in the deck ever, doesn't he bet his hands that have a 6 in the on the flop?
Also, I didn't really have a good plan for the river so this spot is just [censored] up completely, meh have at it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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BB ($607)
UTG ($4233.90)
MP ($2894)
Button ($5231)
Hero ($3049)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $100</font>, Hero calls $90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $80.

Flop: ($320) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($320) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $220</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $680</font>, Hero???

oh the other guy is jeremieparis, pretty sure he is a lagfish, and I'm pretty sure he can donkbet a wide range here.

[AAismyfriend]

I would puke a lot and then fold

[LuckyDice]

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I would puke a lot and then fold

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You don't think we have odds to try and fill up? Especially since UTG's donk doesn't mean much.

[catcher193]

nothin yo?

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[blainestar]

Seems like an easy fold. I can't imagine you checking the turn with a straight so your hand will be pretty transparent if you just call turn. Also, from what I've heard Empire is good, so I'm not sure you even get paid off if u do fill up(If I read it correct that he's only 100BB deep to start the hand)

[catcher193]

no we are 150BB deep, and if I fill up and open jam or something stupid yeah I doubt he will call with naked strait.

maybe I could jam clubs as a bluff? thats kinda interesting

[blainestar]

I'm slow.... Yeah this is a bit more interesting 150BB deep but I think it's still prob a fold given villain is more than competent and outside chance of the other guy also having a 6 and jamming it in. Getting stuck for 700 then having to fold would be really gross. I'm really incompetent when it comes to math stuff so maybe at that point you'd be getting the right price but this looks like a pretty marginal spot considering your not sure if you get paid if you hit.

[tuuufts]

Fold. You're getting 2:1 here... you need about 3:1 to call. And I don't think anyone's stacking off with just a straight if the board pairs.

also, what others have said... you're not closing the action and you don't wanna get stuck playing for stacks here yada yada

[Jamougha]

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maybe I could jam clubs as a bluff? thats kinda interesting

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Not very convincing after you cold-call. May as well 3-bet cold to rep 86. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]