50NL deep stacked with KK interesting spot...

bazza22 · #1 07-26-2007, 05:17 AM

Villain seems fairly solid 22/15/3. At first thought when the K drops im thinking put it all in but whilst making me a set its completed a heck of a lot of draws. Just wondering hows best to play the rest of the hand?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($86.50)
SB ($44.75)
Hero ($148.20)
UTG ($50)
MP ($24)
CO ($60.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6.75, Button calls $4.25.

Flop: ($13.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button calls $8.

Turn: ($29.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ?

Jzo19 · #2 07-26-2007, 05:22 AM

raise more PF your giving villain good implied odds to set mine against u

as played , bet the turn ...and ill felt this hand if RR....

bazza22 · #3 07-26-2007, 05:38 AM

Is a pot sized re-raise no good here pre flop?

catoandtonic · #4 07-26-2007, 05:42 AM

Bet ~pot size then 3bet all in if raised. We are ahead of TT-AA and have redraws against flush/straight. I don't mind getting my money in here.

Jzo19 · #5 07-26-2007, 05:44 AM

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its not good cause your both deep ...ur giving him something like 18 to 1 implied odds PF , raise to 8 and you cut down his implied to 14to1

bazza22 · #6 07-26-2007, 05:58 AM

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Thats what I thought so I just shoved on the turn and he folded.

catoandtonic · #7 07-26-2007, 06:03 AM

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Thats what I thought so I just shoved on the turn and he folded.

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Shoving is a large overbet. I am not sure I like that because that might fold some hands we want calling and get called by flush/straights. Although, he may very well call with a set, we still get the money from sets by just betting /shoving to raise.

Am I correct that you opened for ~70 on turn?

bazza22 · #8 07-26-2007, 06:10 AM

Yeah, I crazily opened for my whole stack!

I could have opened for $20 but didnt fancy being raised all in and facing a tough decision.

Similarly if called and lets say a diamond drops on the river im in a tough spot as well, I thought my shove eliminated the possibility of having to think real hard later on!

deadmanspoker · #9 07-26-2007, 07:55 AM

I think $35 is your bet on the end, that way you are committed anyways. And if you are raised, well you just have to play for stacks, you will be getting odds for the call.