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Old 07-23-2007, 06:31 PM
ger664 ger664 is offline
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Default $5.50 FTP 90 Man Deep Stack Overpair OOP against rare re-raise

Villian was 40/10 over 60-70 hands at this point. He would bet/call but rarely raise. What is your line from this point forward ?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t80/t160
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t9915
UTG+1: t7665
MP1: t13650
CO: t5965
Button: t7710
SB: t4115
BB: t3440

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t400</font>, UTG+1 calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t640)</font>, 5 folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1040, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t750</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to t1500</font>, Hero ??
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Old 07-23-2007, 07:36 PM
Yoshi63 Yoshi63 is offline
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Default Re: $5.50 FTP 90 Man Deep Stack Overpair OOP against rare re-raise

Push b/c you're probably ahead a lot of the time. AA he probably would've raised PF (and woudld've stacked you anyways). 55/66/TT are usually smooth calling on this safe flop that likely missed your hand. TPGK/JJ/QQ might often play this way.
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:07 AM
ger664 ger664 is offline
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Default Re: $5.50 FTP 90 Man Deep Stack Overpair OOP against rare re-raise

The buyin was in the subject. Its a $5.50. Also there is ~30 players left at the time of this hand. these have a very flat payout as in top 18 pay.
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:31 AM
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Default Re: $5.50 FTP 90 Man Deep Stack Overpair OOP against rare re-raise

call
check/call - check/check turn
bet the river
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: $5.50 FTP 90 Man Deep Stack Overpair OOP against rare re-raise

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call
check/call - check/check turn
bet the river

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all the hands that beat us will get all chips in anyway, all the hands that we beat might either draw out on us (AT) or get scared by a turn card.
I push here and it's not close
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: $5.50 FTP 90 Man Deep Stack Overpair OOP against rare re-raise

yeah push and hope he just has top pair and calls and you hold up or if he has nothing he folds and you get a the pot there and then.
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:17 AM
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Default Re: $5.50 FTP 90 Man Deep Stack Overpair OOP against rare re-raise

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all the hands that beat us will get all chips in anyway, all the hands that we beat might either draw out on us (AT) or get scared by a turn card.
I push here and it's not close

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so as long as we have no idea what is villain's holding i think we have to try to figure it out.
i don't like these all or nothing pushes if there is not a concrete idea behind.
if you think a push gives you some fold equity against a better hand - than yes - push.
if you think that a push is called by a hand worse than ours - again yes - push.
but only to end this hand quickly, where we mostly will hold a winning hand with a push is a no no for me.
i think we have to try to extract as much value as possible out of these high +EV hands.
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