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Old 07-21-2007, 08:36 PM
ThePlan ThePlan is offline
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Default jack king not suited in shorthanded pot

Villain is unknown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($198)
BB ($396.55)
Hero ($203)
Button ($151.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($41) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $34</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $70</font>, Hero calls $36.

River: ($181) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $120 and puts me all in</font>
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Old 07-21-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: jack king not suited in shorthanded pot

well its the bill fillmaff hand so u got to call
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Old 07-21-2007, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: jack king not suited in shorthanded pot

Easy call. What hand would he raise the turn with? KK and JJ are very unlikely. I doubt he'd call pf and on the flop with a 4. QT might semi-bluff the turn, but it would be unusual. AA would re-raise pre-flop. His most likely holdings are AK, KJ, and maybe KQ. You're ahead of or chopping with all of them.
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Old 07-21-2007, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: jack king not suited in shorthanded pot

Weird spot. It's hard to put him on a hand, but I think you just gotta call and pray he has AK. Lemme guess, A4s?
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: jack king not suited in shorthanded pot

Bump for more opinions
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:41 PM
ReptileHouse ReptileHouse is offline
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Default Re: jack king not suited in shorthanded pot

That is a really strange line for villain on that board.

I don't think you'll see KQ here very often at all. A 4 is much more possible. There are lots of folks who play any suited ace to a raise PF and will float the flop if they hit any pair. Likewise, some folks play AK, AA and KK passively preflop and try to build the pot postflop. I think villain will show up with QT from time to time, as well.

Against a range of {AA,JJ,44,AK,KJ,A4s,QT} (weighting against AA/KK and A4 by only including AA and A4s), you have 21% equity, which isn't enough. It swings to a call if we include KQ, but like I said, I don't see villain having that very often here.

I dump it against an unknown.
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Old 07-23-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: jack king not suited in shorthanded pot

I probably pitch it in this spot. Unlikely he bluffs the turn and then all in bluffs the river, and at this point what else are you ahead of besides AK, KQ? It played out to me like Villain flopped a big hand and was slow playing you to the turn, then when he saw you called his smallish raise he shoved the river. I think you're behind. That said, tough fold.
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