4/180 Early, KK

WCGRider · #1 07-22-2007, 11:55 AM

Villain has been tight, he hasnt gotten involved in a pot yet. I was trying to charge draws incorrectly, Comments on all streets are welcome.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t1970)
Hero (t2350)
UTG (t1450)
UTG+1 (t1560)
MP1 (t1825)
MP2 (t1230)
CO (t1765)
Button (t4270)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, 4 folds, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero|BB raises to t180, UTG calls t150, Button calls t150, SB folds.

Flop: (t570) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero|BB bets t270, UTG calls t270, Button folds.

Turn: (t1110) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero|BB bets t630, UTG raises to t1000, Hero|BB calls t370.

River: (t3110)(2 players)

Final Pot: t3110

sixfour · #2 07-22-2007, 12:34 PM

I make it 150 pre and about 350-400 on the flop, but apart from that I play it exactly the same

footnbaseball · #3 07-22-2007, 12:55 PM

Yea I would bet larger on this flop, probably 450 or so, and get it in on the turn.

ssnyc · #4 07-22-2007, 01:40 PM

same...pre 150 or 180 are fine but get more in on flop...too early to mess around and let some yoyo catch up cheap...pot the flop and gt it in on turn

MJBuddy · #5 07-22-2007, 01:44 PM

I like the pre-flop raise. I might raise more sometimes here knowing I'm out of position, but it's early on and you can extract a lot of value here so you don't want to scare people off.

On the flop I think the bet is a bit small. I'm a fan of a 300-400 here. Draws are going to call thinking you have nothing and if they pick up a pair they're good.

Turn is fine as played.

udbrky · #6 07-22-2007, 02:11 PM

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I like the pre-flop raise. I might raise more sometimes here knowing I'm out of position, but it's early on and you can extract a lot of value here so you don't want to scare people off.

On the flop I think the bet is a bit small. I'm a fan of a 300-400 here. Draws are going to call thinking you have nothing and if they pick up a pair they're good.

Turn is fine as played.

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I agree, I like to kick in a little extra in the blinds, to try to end it preflop, rather than play oop.

Definitely more on the flop. The 270 looks like missed overs, with no flush draw. It seems you're scared and taking a weak stab. 375-400 is good. If you pot it, a flush draw's probably still calling. I'd get a feel for their hands by the way they react to a 3/4-ish pot sized bet. Use timing tells here. Definitely fire again at a brick turn. Put him all-in, since he's short.

Coz · #7 07-22-2007, 03:06 PM

I am playing this hand alot more aggressivly, on flop I am betting near the size of the pot, and am either shovin the turn or pot commiting myself, if this guy has something like AKs he is going to pay to draw so get all the chips in early. He is also going broke with 77+. I think a set is unlikley because he probably would have re-raised flop with all the draws. We are definetly ahead of his range. Remember tight it in a 4/180 dosen't mean he is a solid player.

SuperUberBob · #8 07-22-2007, 03:23 PM

I go broke every day of the week with this hand. No way am I not getting all my chips in the middle here.

8Adam8 · #9 07-22-2007, 04:08 PM

Preflop: fine

Flop: Bet more, like 3/4 pot

Turn: obv

All_In_Olly · #10 07-23-2007, 09:06 AM

pre flop i raise to 150 but understand why you're raising more and should prob be doing same myself.
flop i bet around 400-450.
You're still charging too much for the flush draw, even for the button if UTG calls, but generally 2/3s or 3/4s is a standard amount and means you don't have to think or give away a read on your hand. Also makes it easier to get it AI on the turn in this case, which I think you should have done anyway.