Live 200NL OOP Set w/ Tricky Turn

[Tablerat]

Main villain in hand is somewhat loose and passive, but does not get too out of line. My image is tight, straightforward.

I have 77 in MP. My stack ~ 350; villain covers.

EP shortstack raises to 20, I call, villain on button calls.

Flop: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

PFR bets 25, I raise to 100, button stalls for about 30 seconds and finally calls (I expected a fold and did not think he was acting.). PFR calls all-in (I wasn't concerned about PFR - for some reason put him on an ace the entire hand).

Turn: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (Pot is ~360, I have 230 left)

So, I'm first to act against button, with one player all-in.

The reason I'm posting this is b/c I was 90% sure I was ahead on flop, but felt button was drawing based on his behavior. No clue which draw though on flop (with his wide range esp. on button)!? So now the turn completes one draw and brings another. I was confused as how to play OOP. Thoughts?

[ShipitFMA]

All that makes sense are 99 and something like T8ss and J10ss and AXss. Realistically i dont think he'd call with T8 off so we're really only behind T8ss and 99 (aa raising pf usually)

I probably just shove here almost always and am happy to get my money in

[JacksAgain]

Shove. Is villain loose enough to call 10BBs preflop with 8T? Hopefully not.

I feel like if he had 99 or AA, he'd reraise on such a drawy board. I also don't think he pauses for so long with either of those hands.

[Javanewt]

I'd push. Villain might have Aces up or a big A and/or a draw.

I can't imagine he has T8. AA or 99 are possible, but poorly played. You have a set on a drawy board, get it in now.

[Tablerat]

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Shove. Is villain loose enough to call 10BBs preflop with 8T? Hopefully not.

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Sorry, I should have clarified the blinds were $3/5 in this game.

Obviously I like this turn more than a spade (how would you play this if it were the 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] on the turn?), but still felt like a push was somewhat spewy given that I was 90% sure he was on some good draw. What if I had a deep stack? Do you bet strong on this turn or check it to the button?

I'm not good at calculating how much more likely it is for villain to have any flush draw vs. 8-10 not spades, something like over 3x likely right? Then, if any spade hits the turn, do we check?

[mce86]

Big enough pot with enough draws that constitute a push here.

[Mr_Donktastic]

Just push for christs sake.

[pterodactyl_]

c/f

[robinmasters]

Push the turn, if he has 99 so be it
am i the only one not sure of the preflop call, short stacks raising early for 20 of his 100 most likely he has AK/Q or big pair. id be more inclined to reraise to 75 and get him all in or fold given u dont have the implied odds to crack a over pair and if he does just have paint cards is he likely to put anymore in on flop that misses him. what if flop is J 10 3 and he shoves his last 80 into? i guess it depends on the table, was there a lot of calling, were u confident about more ppl coming along? if this is flawed thinking on my part pls tell me.

[sccl]

So you are 70bb deep. Push turn, this is a no brainer.