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If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
Villain is solid tag on the tighter side, 18/15 or something. We've played some before at 200nl but not much history between us. One hand at 200nl a few weeks ago though he raised my BB from the SB with ATs, I slowplayed KK and raised his cbet on a Kxx monotone flop and bet the turn when checked to and called his shove. He flopped the nut flush. Just a cooler hand but might give some information regarding how we both play our strong hands in similar situations.
Preflop is whatever, sometimes 3 bet sometimes call, usually calling though. I feel like the only option on the flop is to raise, although I guess I could see calling being ok. But I assume this is a typical spot to raise and I have sort of a laggish image and he knows I'm capable of raising this flop with air, draws, etc. But he is really solid from what I've seen and I can't see much that I beat when he shoves, but raising the flop and folding to a shove seems gross as I basically turn my hand into a bluff doing that. Thoughts are welcomed as this spot really confuses me on what the "optimal line" should be. Party Poker No Limit Hold'em Cash Game $2/$4 Blinds 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $832.20 Hero (BB): $400.00 UTG: $895.70 CO: $409.00 BTN: $922.70 Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players) 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $14.00</font>, Hero calls $10.00 Flop: ($28) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $22.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $74.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $818.20</font>, Hero calls all-in for $312.00 |
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
I'd be delighted to get allin here. blind versus blind. Hearts, QT, AK are all very possible.
But if for some reason I didn't want to get allin on the flop, nothing wrong with calling. |
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
i really think this overshove looks like a combo draw at best, the only thing you should be afraid of is AQ, but that may just be another cooler, i don't see folding this in BvB after raising the floop
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
yes
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
This is definately a tough spot. You don't want to give a free card on that board, so I agree with the raise. But it seems like a very dangerous board to call AI on, especially considering how strong he has played it. I wouldn't be suprised to see QQ or AQ, but it's a tough fold. With only 1.75:1 on your money and a draw-heavy and dangerous board, I don't think I could call this. Seems like a bigger hand than AT trynig to protect against the suckout.
You don't seem to be running well against this guy (or at least get into tough spots against him). |
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
that would qualify as the optimal line.
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
I really can`tfind a fold and i love the raise, because even if he has only AK he will valuebet turn and what than?
Do you really wanna call down or muck at river? |
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
yeah well played a5
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
you don't have to call a shove
but if you like money i suggest calling it |
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Re: If I raise this flop I have to call a shove ... right?
Im a little surprised everyone wants to call this.
What is his opening range in ths sb or his steal percentage? You need to call 312 to win 488 thats about 1-1,6 in odds. Board: Ad Qh Th Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 33.481% 24.49% 08.99% 5820 2135.00 { AsTs } Hand 1: 66.519% 57.53% 08.99% 13670 2135.00 { AA, QQ, TT, AQs+, AhJh, ATs, AQo+, ATo } And here I havent even included KJ in his opening range in the SB. What combo draws can he really have here except AhJh, maybe Ah9h. If he is opening every Axs you will get there but Im pretty sure that is not the case. Correct me if Im wrong. |
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