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Old 07-19-2007, 12:37 AM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $394.00
BB: $75.70
Hero (UTG): $886.95
MP: $761.00
CO: $676.05
BTN: $249.35

Reads: <font color="blue">villain is 30/15/1.2 over 67 hands...first hand ive played against him.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, MP calls $21.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($51) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $42.00</font>, MP calls $42.00

Turn: ($135) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $99.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $698.00</font>, Hero
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

Fold.

I'd highly consider check/calling the turn so that you aren't raised off the 2nd nut flush draw and I'm not being results oriented.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

I like c-c the turn a lot. You don't miss any value as 89 67 55 etc aren't usually calling a turn bet and everything runs smoothly with c-c.
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

Check call turn is bad if you want to 2 barrel bluff successfully with any frequency at all.
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:21 AM
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

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Check call turn is bad if you want to 2 barrel bluff successfully with any frequency at all.

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So you consider playing b/f in this spot just to balance your second barrel bluffs?

I also prefer a c/c to induce a bluff from his site.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

you guys are pretty deep and his stats are very passive so i think this is an easy fold
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

I like check/calling this turn as well. The EV of playing this hand correctly is much more important than the EV of 2-barrel metagame factors.

As played, fold.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

dont c/c turn v him. just b/f whatever.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:45 AM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

you played this well imo if you folded
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Old 07-19-2007, 04:02 AM
vhawk01 vhawk01 is offline
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Default Re: tough spot with KK

Huh, I think this is a std c/c most of the time, why do you guys think b/f is so much better? I haven't spent too much time thinking about spots like this, just my usual play is c/c this to induce bluffs, catch up, keep pot small...b/f seems bad.
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