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Old 07-19-2007, 06:55 AM
SuttonChris SuttonChris is offline
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Default Bad beat - did he have right odds to call?

Hi, just had a bad beat, could you tell me if my opponent made a bad play, or if I could have played it better?

6-handed $0.50/$1 table. Picked up KK on the button. UTG folds, guy in 2nd position raises to $4. Folds round to me on the button where I re-raise to $10. 2nd pos calls.

Flop comes 6h 10d 2d.

He checks, I bet $16, he raises to $45. I think for a moment and decide I don't think he has a set so I push for $191.60. He calls for his remaining $120ish and reveals AKd.

Turn 7s

River Ac

I asked him how he could call that but he reckoned he had odds to do so, as he put me on Jacks or Queens.

What is your analysis on this hand guys? Thanks. Chris.
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Old 07-19-2007, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: Bad beat - did he have right odds to call?

yeah his play is fine

also, make it like $13 pre flop
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:05 AM
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Default Re: Bad beat - did he have right odds to call?

Yeah, I raise to 12 preflop in position, and his play is fine. He actually is getting the odds to call even if he knows you have KK I think.. he's around 47% to win I think. So I mean, it's just a cooler, he's not gonna fold and there's nothing you can do.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: Bad beat - did he have right odds to call?

pf - rrz to $15

If he had AKdd, then he is about 50/50 against KK.

Pokerstove says he is 46.970% to win, which means with money in the pot his play is waaay +EV.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: Bad beat - did he have right odds to call?

If he puts you on QQ or JJ, you will win with QQ or JJ round about 67% of the time and he 32%, so he need 3:1 pot odds to call, he called your shove for 120 in a 200 pot, so he had less then 2:1 pot odds, so he played just bad.
And with your KK you are even more ahead, so, you played find.
I realy donīt know why all say he played fine, is there anything i donīt see?

edit: bling [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] now i realized the flush draw, so fine, nevertheless, if he puts you on QQ, JJ, he is in his mind ahead, you played fine, he played fine
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:30 AM
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If he puts you on QQ or JJ, you will win with QQ or JJ round about 67% of the time and he 32%, so he need 3:1 pot odds to call, he called your shove for 120 in a 200 pot, so he had less then 2:1 pot odds, so he played just bad.
And with your KK you are even more ahead, so, you played find.
I realy donīt know why all say he played fine, is there anything i donīt see?

bling [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] now i realized the flush draw, so fine, nevertheless, if he puts you on QQ, JJ, he is in his mind ahead, you played fine, he played fine

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any ace or king is an out aswell as the fd
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:33 AM
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any ace or king is an out aswell as the fd

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How do you work that out? I had KK.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:37 AM
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i meant in reference to him putting you on QQ,JJ
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:37 AM
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any ace or king is an out aswell as the fd

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How do you work that out? I had KK.

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He was referring to the post that said "If he thinks you have QQ or JJ" or something to that effect.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:29 AM
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Board: 6h Td 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.462% 58.46% 00.00% 15627 0.00 { TT+, 66, 22 }
Hand 1: 41.538% 41.54% 00.00% 11103 0.00 { AdKd }
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