100: One More PF Question

[QTip]

UTG I have 81 hands on at 32/17/1.6

+1 is a well-respected 100 reg 2+2er who also plays quite tightly.

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Hero ($99.50)
SB ($99)
BB ($100)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($17.70)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($94.50)</font>
MP1 ($139.05)
MP2 ($148.80)
MP3 ($153.10)
CO ($23.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $8</font> Folds to me.

I'm not sure what's best here.

[MyTurn2Raise]

ugly spot

I have to raise to $25 or so.
If you just call, UTG is likely to push and reopen betting to UTG+1.

UTG+1 range includes alot of AK and AQs, plus lower pocket pairs isolating the donky, that you can use position to beat.

I c-bet most (nearly all) flops and back off to further aggression.

[Klompy]

Is folding not an option here? I'd hate to call, and I'd cry if I 4 bet here and the 2+2er pushed.

[KurtSF]

Fold.

To a respected 2+2er 3-betting UTG+1? Yeah, I think I can find a better spot.

[Mingdu]

I raise to $22 or so and call a shove by the 2+2er ... obv he is squeezing the shorty

[threads13]

Fold. A tight 2+2 is not raising with less than JJ+/AK here. You still have to worry about the original raiser.

[mce86]

Call most of the time..sometimes reraise.
UTG+1 has a made hand, and we need a flop. Also, depends on how often he raises

[SnglMaltScotch]

Is it too nitty to fold here. UTG+1 is 3betting and UTG raise even though UTG is really LAGGY. Lets consider the options.

4betting: Only gets called or pushed on with AA or KK (maybe QQ). Risking $25 or so to win $13 or so.

Flat Calling: Yuck. What if UTG now goes all in.. Are we calling that. What about UTG+1. I really don't like calling. If we call and the flop brings an A or K you won't get any action from anything that we beat.

Folding: There is a solid chance that we are in BAD!! shape with UTG+1. We are most often in a coinflip if not dead to KK or AA. Again, we won't get any postflop action if an A or a K falls by anything that we beat (except AQ).

I am SMS and I am a nit. I fold.

SMS

[Teddie]

Both deep, i'd probaly fold, if it was suited i would call. He's probaly only 3 betting us with QQ+, possibly jacks but even then i hate playing this out of position and if a King falls its hard to get away from it and i always end up spewing chips.


lol - read it wrong originally. The fact UTG is a SS and could well shove makes this an even easier fold

[rdrr]

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Looking at UTG's stack i'd shove.

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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa?? I think you have it flipped around, UTG+1 is the tight 2+2er not UTG.