Overcards and a big pot

McNeese72 · #1 07-12-2007, 10:35 AM

CO is a big lag who is playing about every hand and going to showdown if he gets any part of the board.

MP2 shows up as a SLPP with the hands I have on him

SB is an unknown

UTG+1 is a tag

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets, CO raises, Hero??

Pot is big (I'm getting 7.5:1 from the pot), I figure the SLPP got part of the flop, the CO's raise is standard for him even if he just has a pair, then we have the SB and the TAG who limped in UTG.

All my overcard outs could be good (even an A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] wouldn't be bad). Question is, is this a call and then reevaluate the action and the turn card or should I reraise to try to get rid of SB and UTG since the pot is big? Or would that be spewing?

Doc

KitCloudkicker · #2 07-12-2007, 10:36 AM

given that you arent closing the action here and could easily end up paying up to 4 bets on dirty overcards and a BDFD i believe you should fold this flop.

change the flop to TJx and you might have an argument for calling.

bobbyshaw · #3 07-12-2007, 10:57 AM

for 2 bets and OOP i let this one go

sick0fbe4tz · #4 07-12-2007, 12:00 PM

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given that you arent closing the action here and could easily end up paying up to 4 bets on dirty overcards and a BDFD i believe you should fold this flop.

change the flop to TJx and you might have an argument for calling.

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Good points. I agree completely.

McNeese72 · #5 07-12-2007, 12:21 PM

Okay, I guess just calling was spew.

I'm playing like crap right now.

Doc

JJack · #6 07-12-2007, 01:09 PM

U got here about 2-2,5 outs for 2x overcards and 1 for runner st8 so I fold.

Mister Bloom · #7 07-12-2007, 01:17 PM

Grunch

I have a hard time 3-betting and probably going to cap with just overcards here. Definitely not folding, so I guess that leads me to just call and re-evaluate the nonsense that comes forth.

Mister Bloom · #8 07-12-2007, 01:18 PM

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Definitely not folding...

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Hooray, me equals fish.

Montrealcorp · #9 07-12-2007, 01:44 PM

i would of call if i was closing this betting round but ure not ...
too much unknow after u call(for the raising ) and too much players as well, making only 1 pair winning vs 5 players less likely.

fold

nomadtla · #10 07-12-2007, 01:51 PM

against 4 other people and not clossing the action you have to let it go.