Lay this down? Hand 1

[mongidig]

I think that I pay off way too much and would like to try to balance this part of my game out a little more.

I raise UTG with KdKs and get two LP callers and both blinds call.

The flop: 4h5d5c

I bet, and everyone calls

The turn: 4h5d5cQs

I bet and only the LPs call

The river: 4h5d5cQs8h

I bet, LP raises, folded to me. The LP is super loose preflop, pretty much a calling station post flop, I have yet to see him bluff or semibluff and has had a big hand everytime he has raised the river which has been 3 times in the 3 hours I have been at the table. Obviously, this is not a very big sample size.

Can we get away from this hand? Should I have checked the river?

[n.s.]

I can never make this laydown, but I do feel like I get shown 67 or a crappy 5 pretty much every time.

Checking this river would be a significant mistake against 2 loose-passive players, imo.

[Hass]

I can't fold here either, but I'm not checking the river. So I guess b/c and lose.

[Grease]

So far, both of the "lay this hand down" hands you've posted have been auto-calls for me.

I B/C the river on both, and pay off confidently.