UB 5.50T: Bubble deepstacks, lay down a full house?

KoreanBuffet · #1 07-10-2007, 12:10 PM

There is big action in this hand, is this a clear fold because of the danger of due to the prescence of the original raiser being the Big stack still left to act!?!?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t3630)
BB (t2840)
Hero (t4075)
Button (t4455)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls t100, Button raises to t450, SB calls t400, 1 fold, Hero calls t350.

Flop: (t1450) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t1450, Hero folds, Button raises to t4005 (All-In), SB raises to t3180 (All-In).

Turn: (t8635) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t8635) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t8635

darks · #2 07-10-2007, 01:02 PM

wow. nice fold. even with that big of a hand, and just one push infront of you. even more so because 2 other called, and even more because of the bubble situation!
As if you knew what will happen. one of these 3 had a 4, right? Or atleast bigger pocket pair...

I say nice fold.

Collin Moshman · #3 07-10-2007, 03:35 PM

Hi Korean,

First, let's look at the pre-flop action. In 4-handed play with a mid pocket pair, normally you should raise (say 2.5 or 3 BB). This is for several reasons:

1. Value. Your hand figures to be best 4-handed.

2. Position. You don't want the button to call, since a mid pair is tough enough to play already post-flop, and having the button in there with position will make this hand much more difficult to play post-flop.

3. Pre-flop fold equity. Everyone could well fold to a smallish bet of t250 or so, and just taking the blinds at the bubble is usually desirable, even at 50-100.

But given this limp, you must stick around to see a flop given the better than 4:1 pot odds and the fact that your call closes the action.

Now at the flop, reads really come into play. Pre-flop action indicates you could be up against a higher pocket pair (particularly the SB's smooth-call), plus calling this bet pot-commits you and the pre-flop raiser is still in the pot. So unless these guys are very loose-aggressive, protect your big stack near the bubble and make the play you did: fold. The combination of you might already being beat, plus the possibility of overcards hitting, make this a fold.

So what did the SB and button end up showing?

Best Regards,
Collin

jesse8888 · #4 07-10-2007, 03:53 PM

Preflop: I'd raise with 88 and fold to a non-min reraise
Postflop: nh

KoreanBuffet · #5 07-10-2007, 04:21 PM

The SB had 55 and the button had QQ.