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Old 07-08-2007, 07:15 AM
KingBrian KingBrian is offline
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Default NL 200 - value on river?

PartyPoker Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(4 handed)</font> HandRecorder

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SB (30/16/4.00/18) (67h)

Preflop: Hero is BU with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#FF0000">SB raises to $26</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls $18.

Flop: ($54) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">SB bets $38</font>, Hero calls $38.

Turn: ($130) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($130) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $130.

bet 60 on river? or is just checkin behind ok?
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:28 AM
McRoNiX McRoNiX is offline
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

I prefer checking behind here I think. Can't see a worse hand calling. TT?
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

Hmmm it's a bit thin I think. I'd just check behind.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:28 AM
mvdgaag mvdgaag is offline
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

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I prefer checking behind here I think. Can't see a worse hand calling. TT?

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Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

His chk on turn on river indicates your hand is good, but no worse hand will call a value bet there. Checking down is definitely best and be happy to take what is already a decent pot.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

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His chk on turn on river indicates your hand is good, but no worse hand will call a value bet there. Checking down is definitely best and be happy to take what is already a decent pot.

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Old 07-08-2007, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

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His chk on turn on river indicates your hand is good, but no worse hand will call a value bet there. Checking down is definitely best and be happy to take what is already a decent pot.

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Old 07-08-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

Checking behind is good. If the flop was drawier and river was a brick, a bet would be more interesting.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

if we are villain and hold AK/AQ/AA and checked turn (quite possible and certainly with AQ), how would we advocate playing river? these hands should be the top of SB's range.

it's a gross spot with any of these hands (except AQ, which is probably an easy c/f) as SB has a tough time getting called by worse if he shoves and probably gets owned if he c/c. consider what villain thinks of hero's range after preflop/flop action and what worse hands could call a river shove.

i really have no idea what to do here. villain probably SHOULD c/f river with all of his range since hero shouldn't have a hand to bluff with and will be valuebetting worse rarely...so...shove?
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:03 AM
TRD23 TRD23 is offline
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Default Re: NL 200 - value on river?

I hate this hand.

What is the plan when we are calling his pf raise?

Similarly, what is the plan when we are calling his c-bet? Are we planning on betting any non A,K,Q?

If that is the case is raising the flop a better option?
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