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Old 06-30-2007, 05:28 PM
Brandonjp13 Brandonjp13 is offline
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Default TP+GSSD in a 4/180

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t3285)
MP3 (t8257)
CO (t1980)
Button (t9390)
SB (t2175)
Hero (t3160)
UTG (t5445)
UTG+1 (t1140)
MP1 (t3989)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, CO calls t200, Button calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t700) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t400</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t1780</font>, Button folds, Hero ??


What's the play here? Can we find a fold or do we call and pray if we're behind the draw hits?
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Old 06-30-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: TP+GSSD in a 4/180

Fold.

Range here has to be overpairs, better 8x, spade overs and you have 4-5 clean outs.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: TP+GSSD in a 4/180

don't fold.
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: TP+GSSD in a 4/180

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don't fold.

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Old 07-01-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: TP+GSSD in a 4/180

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don't fold.

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Why not?
Is this because its a 4/180 donkament?
Do you really put villain on a draw only?
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Old 07-01-2007, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: TP+GSSD in a 4/180

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don't fold.

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Why not?
Is this because its a 4/180 donkament?
Do you really put villain on a draw only?

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think about this a little:

1) you're getting over 2-1. You need to win the pot like 30% of the time to break even.
2) We have 7 outs against a dominating 8, 9 against an overpair. twice.
3) we're often ahead. There are a ton of draws that people shove with here, including a hand like 56 or something, overcards or spades.
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Old 07-01-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: TP+GSSD in a 4/180

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don't fold.

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Why not?
Is this because its a 4/180 donkament?
Do you really put villain on a draw only?

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think about this a little:

1) you're getting over 2-1. You need to win the pot like 30% of the time to break even.
2) We have 7 outs against a dominating 8, 9 against an overpair. twice.
3) we're often ahead. There are a ton of draws that people shove with here, including a hand like 56 or something, overcards or spades.

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I ruled out overpairs because I think he's raising 99+ from CO.

This is a very loose range for villain, don't you think?
Board: 7s 8d 5s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.411% 50.86% 00.55% 21147 229.50 { 9d8s }
Hand 1: 48.589% 48.04% 00.55% 19974 229.50 { 88-55, A8s, A6s, KsQs, KsJs, 65s, A8o, A6o }
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Old 07-01-2007, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: TP+GSSD in a 4/180

Super easy call, you have &gt;&gt;&gt;the needed 30% equity, there's a zillion different draws he could, and have you outs against better hands.
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