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Old 06-26-2007, 09:22 PM
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Default Two hands from Venetian $1k

First table, Ive been fairly aggressive. Did not have to show down that many, but when I did it was at least reasonable.

Blinds 200/400 50 ante

UTG= Me T45,000
UTG+1= T25,000 Supposed Internet pro, moved to the table 2 orbits ago, seems solid. Restole my steal attempt
BUTTON= T25,000 Local in his 50's, loose station

I limp with 22, utg+1 limps, mp limps, button limps

Flop: Ad,Kd,5c

I check, UTG+1 bets 3400, BUTTON calls, I raise to 10,000


Hand 2

Blinds 400/800 ante 100

Been at this table about 3 orbits

UTG+1= T21,000 foreign 20 something (looking scandanavian), I have seen him get involved in at least 5 pots; I think he won 2 and folded 2 to an allin reraise

BUTTON=ME T40,000; Involved in 2 pots at this table, 1 I won on a dry flop reraise, the other I folded the turn to a push

UTG+1 raises to 2100, folded to me with J-10o, I make it 5k

Flop QQ8, 2 diamonds; he checks, I bet 7000, he pushes 9K more, I fold.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

Hand 1, I can think of better spots to bluff, but it might work. Both villains connected.

Hand 2, you almost have odds to call the flop push with the gutshot and runner runner possibilities. I would cbet a little less.
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

Hand 1: I hate this he isn't deep enough and is going to shove all combo draws and a lot of ATs AJs.

Hand 2: Your preflop 3bet is too small and I check back on this flop because I think you get played back a lot here. Are either your J or T a diamond because this influences the hand also.
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

Hand 1: Meh, you got to see the flop for cheap, you missed, I'd say let it go. You are going to have to fold if they push and that looks really bad after already putting in 10k. This seems very FPSish.

Hand 2: I think you can possibly just take a free card on this flop. He just called 25% of his stack preflop, he probably has a good hand and this isn't the type of flop that 99-JJ is going to fold. Look to get there on the turn, and if you don't, just fold it.
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:05 AM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

yow, i don't like either of these
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:28 AM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

Don't like either hand, you can just play normally instead. If you have some very specific reason why you think each of your bets is +EV then okay go for it, but in general randomly raising with nothing after people bet/raise is not going to make you lots of money.

Sometimes it will be good, but obviously when you look at these hands in a vacuum, one isn't going to say "yea you played optimally".
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Old 06-27-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

Hand 1, my thinking was since neither of them raised pf, the flop gave them enough to get a piece of what prob looked good with no pressure. Utg+1 folded A10 and button 10Jdd.

Hand 2, was played so badly. My question, was folding to his allin with @ 4-1 odds the right play?
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Old 06-27-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

In hand 2 if you are considering calling an allin, you should probably committ yourself postflop. The pot is over 10k anyway, so its not unreasonable to bet around 10k or more.
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Old 06-27-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

I have no comment on hand 1.

For hand 2, either check behind taking a free card or push, depends on your read about villain's ugt+1 raise range.
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Old 06-27-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: Two hands from Venetian $1k

I hate them both. Spewing
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