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NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)
SB ($22.80) BB ($15) Hero ($25.50) MP ($15.40) Button ($51.40) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>. Flop: ($2.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $5</font>, Hero calls $3. Turn: ($12.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, Button checks. River: ($12.35) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, Button checks. I wasn't quite sure what to make of the raise on this dry board. Two pair is fairly unlikely (although T7 is possible), so either he has a set, 98, a ten, or he's just taking a shot at me. Villain had only been around for about twenty hands before this one, and I didn't have anything suggesting he'd stack off with AT here, so I figured a call was better than a three-bet. Then what? I figure I have three options: <ul type="square">[*]Lead the turn. This will get a fold from bluffs, a call from most tens, and another raise from 98 or sets. [*]Check/call the turn. I'm pretty sure this sucks. [*]Check/raise the turn all-in. This was what I was going for at the time, since most villains don't know Baluga, and I think it makes it substantially more likely that I'll get his stack with AT. [/list]Such a basic situation, so much confusion. Any help is appreciated. |
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
No love?
Edit: Haha, is this really tough, or really simple? |
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
It would really help if you had a read on your opponent. Also how have you been playing? Have you been raising every hand?
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
why do you dislike a c/c on the turn? since we don't know if he stacks off w/ AT, i think a cr ai creates the same problem as leading the turn.
edit: w/o reads this line looks fine, crappy river though. were you going to lead if it were a blank? |
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
I don't mind a c/c on the turn. Against an unknown player this is probably how I would play it. But a read would help decide if this the right line or not.
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
I would have led a blank river. I had been playing my tight game, so I really wasn't pushing people around an extraordinary amount preflop. No reads because villain is basically an unknown, as I noted in the OP.
As for check/calling, it just seems like such a passive approach. I think that leading gives me a better idea of where I am in the hand and reduces my reverse implied odds, even though it also folds out the hands that amounted to bluffs. I don't think a checkraise was a great idea, I just mentioned it because it was the idea that I had at the time. |
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
I reraise this flop to 16. The board is dry and you have little chance to improve if you are behind anyway. So there is no real difference to a turn crai. but you will be called by most PPs here and often even TP that might be scared and shut down later when an overcard comes. If he was bluff-raising you, it doesn't really matter, because he is going to fold. You only allow him to hit some magical card or whatever (like that A on the river). When I'm oop with such a hand, I usually play it fast rather than having it checked down because I try to be fancy.
As played, bet that river. Don't give him a negative freeroll, because you can't really fold to a bet after you have underrepresented your hand like that. Fold to a raise though (unless it's a minraise, maybe). |
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
I don't quite understand. You'd three-bet and call a shove? So you're fine with stacking off every time to a set on this board? That seems dangerous against an unknown, since I have no way of knowing how often he'll call a big reraise with AT or worse.
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
Counter-question: But you call and CRAI on the turn and stack off to a set everytime on the turn against an unknown? You see, against a set there is no difference.
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Re: NL25: KK facing flop raise OOP
I think this river calls for a small bet. It would be super thin but most of his range at this point are Tx/small pairs/alot of crap you beat
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