call or fold.....

[Squareview]

somebody make an arguement for raise flop? did i lose value here by not repoping pf (obv scarry flop for set/AK) i played it out, i would like some thoughts on lines from here. the whole hand is odd since the minraise pf. i might add guy before me open shoved last 7 hands on tilt pf so....
ty

PokerStars Game #10553594302: Tournament #52923854, $25.00+$2.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/06/21 - 20:59:52 (ET)
Table '52923854 39' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: BulletsMcGee (3240 in chips)
Seat 2: calligs (2905 in chips)
Seat 3: Sal Bass79 (1405 in chips)
Seat 4: bigchipshi (4175 in chips)
Seat 5: Kc Kash (2365 in chips)
Seat 6: myskoxe (3105 in chips)
Seat 7: syker2 (5430 in chips)
Seat 8: remaxagnt (2410 in chips)
Seat 9: squareview (3610 in chips)
Sal Bass79: posts small blind 50
bigchipshi: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to squareview [Qc Ah]
Kc Kash: folds
myskoxe: folds
syker2: raises 100 to 200
remaxagnt: folds
squareview: calls 200
BulletsMcGee: folds
calligs: folds
Sal Bass79: folds
bigchipshi: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [Th Jh Qs]
bigchipshi: checks
syker2: bets 300

square: ???????

[APipeDream]

I HATE min-raises preflop. I will put in an argument to raise here, although with more reads I could change my answer. You should raise to at least see where you are. It's like a player throwing out a huge range to you...now you're lost and have to pay an extra BB to see a flop with a hand you may see more players unnecessarily in the the pot with too...isolate. Make it 550-700.

[Squareview]

true but i was gonna see action behind with a weak M-value. like i said everyoe was supertight and it looked like he wanted a raise, honestly i thought AA 60% of time there

[Squareview]

but yes ty sir, how do yo play flop if its is isolated with minraiser after i rr pf... and nice win in sunday mil btw.

[hamnegger]

you have a gut shot top pair and a 3 flush id call here but possibly give up on turn depending on bet size

[APipeDream]

You're now in a pretty tough spot, but the flop bet is a super easy call to see the turn and re-evaluate.

[FortunaMaximus]

There's no argument for raising flop that doesn't have you calling a shove from either Villain somewhat unhappily. There's a decent chance with that board texture bigchipski would c/r into mulitple opponents, esp if he mashed that flop with a set or two pair. (Raising for information proponents are like futurists, btw. They're generally wrong.)

Flatcall flop, keep stack sizes too awkward for a flop c/s or a possible b/s from flop lead bettor. Even then, still facing a lot of high-variance turn situations.

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how do yo play flop if its is isolated with minraiser after i rr pf...

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Same as you would in a 3-bet pot on that board. If it's HU, your options are significantly easier to weed out on flops. Probably ck-ck flop, bet-assess(fold/jam), or bet-fold, bet-call, bet-shove flop.

I realize AQs is easier to repop than AQo. That doesn't mean, however, you should adjust by callstationing AQo. Losing too much value long-term, especially early in MTT's.

[Squareview]

so i just called 300 and turn was another Q. it was now HU and villan checked to me. i bet 2/3 pot and he ran away.

[dboivin17]

nh