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06-24-2007, 12:40 PM
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is this a leak,i red often this is a call to hit big when in BB
i think its a call but i usually fold and maybe should of here on flop but i tought if i hit on turn i would get bet couple of bets,tought my implied odds were good here??
Villain vpip 13.9 pfr 12.3 aggro 2.7 PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero calls. Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls. Turn: (3.25 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: 4.25 BB might be a leak but i read a lot those kind of hands are a call...? just the call on the flop might be an error but with implied odds when the bets double might of been ok 
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#3
06-24-2007, 01:02 PM
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Re: is this a leak,i red often this is a call to hit big when in BB
There are 5.5 sb in the pot on the flop and your odds for hitting one of your 5 outs were just over 8:1.
So you would need to be able to make up 2.5 sb or 1.25 bb on the turn and river for your call to be correct if you hit. That seems reasonable, so I think that you probably did have the implied odds to call the flop bet. In passing, I did not really like your preflop call though.
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#4
06-24-2007, 01:06 PM
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Re: is this a leak,i red often this is a call to hit big when in BB
montreal,
you should really consult a hand chart, if you consider that 32s is worth playing vs an UTG raise. also, check the FAQ--recommended that you only do 2 hand posts per day. Buzz
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#5
06-24-2007, 01:35 PM
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Re: is this a leak,i red often this is a call to hit big when in BB
ok sorry ty buzz for info on 2 hands per day didn tknow!
second, im in the BB,i would never never call if i was anywhere else then in BB. but in BB im getting almost 4-1 to call with implied odds i think it could be profitable if i dont chase and can lay it down. i would lay it down easy but with the hand i had on flop i knew if i hit, no redraw would of been there(probably) so i would of won the hand with surely at least 1 BB more with it if i hit turn
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#6
06-24-2007, 02:29 PM
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Re: is this a leak,i red often this is a call to hit big when in BB
fold preflop..
fold the flop.. just too much trouble
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#7
06-24-2007, 02:45 PM
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Re: is this a leak,i red often this is a call to hit big when in BB
[ QUOTE ]
ok sorry ty buzz for info on 2 hands per day didn tknow! second, im in the BB,i would never never call if i was anywhere else then in BB. but in BB im getting almost 4-1 to call with implied odds i think it could be profitable if i dont chase and can lay it down. i would lay it down easy but with the hand i had on flop i knew if i hit, no redraw would of been there(probably) so i would of won the hand with surely at least 1 BB more with it if i hit turn [/ QUOTE ] You have to realize that it is a major leak to call a raise from the BB with suited-junk holdings. I mean what happens when you flop a pair? You can't really make a lot up because you don't know where you stand. You are also out of position. You will end up paying a lot of money when you are behind. Flopping a flush draw is going to happen less often than 4:1, and you still have to pay to make a flush. This is not blind defense as the preflop raiser was UTG. All-in-all this is about as standard as a fold gets. Sorry to give you the bad news. Buzz
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#8
06-24-2007, 04:51 PM
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Re: is this a leak,i red often this is a call to hit big when in BB
well i though theres flush draw and straight draw that i can hit.
if i hit straigth and is got an A = carnage. i would never call down with garbage but ususally play like i did on flop with those hands(hoping catching 2 pair). but good point here:This is not blind defense as the preflop raiser was UTG so its a call vs suspicious late stealing but not vs genuine hands,forgot those toughs ill try to remeber it ty 
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#10
06-24-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: is this a leak,i red often this is a call to hit big when in BB
buzz if i get it correctly,u dont even cold call in blinds with some inferioir but possibly good hands because its only 1 bet to u?
so in BB u play it as if u were early position vs utg raiser? isnt it a bit too tight?
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