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Value-town or c/r with nuts on river
Both villains are fish, 69/12/2 and 47/27/2.
Do they bluff missed draws/value bet worse enough to make this a decent spot for a check-raise here? Or am i losing too much value when they check behind Q-x and pussy out on bluffing diamonds cos it's 3-way? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com CO ($630) Button ($597) Hero ($820) BB ($779) UTG ($996.25) MP ($1121.22) Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls $6, MP calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks. Flop: ($24) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $16, MP calls $16. Turn: ($72) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $55</font>, UTG calls $55, MP calls $55. River: ($237) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero?</font> |
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Re: Value-town or c/r with nuts on river
I dont think they are betting Qx here very often. Also, like you said with the missed draw, they probably wont bet because its a 3 way pot, limped pot, and your showing a lot of strength. I bet the river somewhat small and hope they call w/ some Q or maybe Kx of diamonds or something. I prob bet 180. Who knows they may have backed into KQ and repop.
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Re: Value-town or c/r with nuts on river
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I dont think they are betting Qx here very often. Also, like you said with the missed draw, they probably wont bet because its a 3 way pot, limped pot, and your showing a lot of strength. I bet the river somewhat small and hope they call w/ some Q or maybe Kx of diamonds or something. I prob bet 180. Who knows they may have backed into KQ and repop. [/ QUOTE ] I hate to quote stuff because that doesn't really add anything to the thread but I completly agree here. This is probably "bad" but as I often like to overbet with the nuts I might try it here but they pretty much has to suck alot or have KQ+ here to call that. |
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Re: Value-town or c/r with nuts on river
Bet big, I think they call with a lot.
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Re: Value-town or c/r with nuts on river
Yeah i bet myself here. One point about a c/r to think about is that you don't get to set the bet amount, these fishes might bet like 90 or 115 or whatver with some hand that he would call a much bigger bet with, and i don't see many hands calling a c/r.
Anyway, i wouldn't hope for to much if you where to check so i think this is a clear valuebet versus these players. |
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Re: Value-town or c/r with nuts on river
Inducing a bluff with 3 in the pot is much much harder than doing it with 2 in the pot.
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Re: Value-town or c/r with nuts on river
They'll be hesistant to value bet a Queen here since it's a three way pot; yet given their description they won't think too hard about laying down a Queen.
Bet about $200 and get paid off. The check/raise is just too risky. |
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