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Old 06-19-2007, 03:29 PM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

Hi

Due to these 2 hands I went out after about 5 hands. What do you think about them?

Hand 1
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
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Stack sizes:
DonLigretto: t1500
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1470
MP3: t1500
CO: t1500
Button: t1560
SB: t1470
BB: t1500

Pre-flop: (9 players) DonLigretto is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises to t90</font>, 7 folds, BB calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t135)</font>.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t195, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto bets t195</font>, BB calls t195 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t390)</font>.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t585, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto bets t585</font>, BB calls t585 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1170)</font>.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1755, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets t570</font>, DonLigretto folds.
Uncalled bets: t570 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: t1755

Hand 2
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1410
UTG+1: t1500
MP1: t1500
MP2: t1500
MP3: t1455
CO: t2265
DonLigretto: t675
SB: t1695
BB: t1500

Pre-flop: (9 players) DonLigretto is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t105</font>, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises all-in t675</font>, 2 folds, CO calls t570 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t825)</font>.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1395, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t1395)


Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1395, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t1395)


River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1395, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t1395)


Results:
Final pot: t1395
<font color="#ffffff">CO showed Tc Ts</font>
<font color="#ffffff">DonLigretto showed Kc Ah</font>
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:38 PM
MagicKK MagicKK is offline
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

Hand 1: Raise to around 120 PF. 3XBB usually isn't enough to get the pot HU. The pot bets on each street bar the river seem like you're overplaying the hand, unless you knew that villain would call regardless of bet amounts. Bet around 150-160 on flop and 500 on turn. I'd push the river. You've already invested more than 1/3 of your chips. A lot of the time TPTK is good here in $5's. However I'm basing my judgement on no reads, so unless you have a good read which is telling you to fold, then muck it.

Hand 2: Standard.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

Hand 1 - I think I'd check the turn. Might be a weak play but there are both straight and flush draws on the board. A made straight and two pair are both possibilities. I don't think villain is folding whatever you bet.

Hand 2 - I think it's read dependent. If CO is raising light the all-in is fine otherwise I think I'd call and see a flop.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

Hand one I push the turn instead of putting 40% of your stack in on a drawy board and folding on the river.

Hand two is fine IMO. Calling for that much of your small stack stinks, and folding is weak.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

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Hand one I push the turn instead of putting 40% of your stack in on a drawy board and folding on the river.

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Don't you think shoving is an overbet here? I'd like to play for value here rather than risking all your chips on a hand with no reads on villain.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:55 PM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

But you would push the turn? I just thought this might be really a donk move. But in 5$ I'm just playing TPTP like the nuts, usually worth it. I just knew this guy was on a flush draw that's why I folded...
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

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Don't you think shoving is an overbet here? I'd like to play for value here rather than risking all your chips on a hand with no reads on villain.

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I don't think it is an overbet. It's a really drawy board, and you are ahead more often than not on both the flop and turn. Giving free cards on this board isn't something I like doing, and the pot is almost t600! Take it down now. If he floated the GSD on the flop then he just got lucky. Otherwise, I am fine paying off 2pr or a set which won't happen much. Checking on this board I don't like, any substantial bet is too much of your stack, so push. There are way too many cards you don't want to see on the river.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

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But you would push the turn? I just thought this might be really a donk move. But in 5$ I'm just playing TPTP like the nuts, usually worth it. I just knew this guy was on a flush draw that's why I folded...

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It does look like some kind of draw, and calling your push on draw would be a mistake. He may do it, and it may pay off for him, but most of the time you either take down the nice pot of t600, or he makes a dumb call and misses his draw.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

Don't fold the river on hand 1.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: 5.5$: 2 hands, both early headsup against the same player

U cant fold the river in hand 1. I would bet 150 on the flop and 450 on the turn.
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