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Old 04-26-2007, 06:30 PM
BeatOnRiver BeatOnRiver is offline
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Default Does the run count?

This situation came up in my college baseball game wed:

Runners on 1st and 3rd, 1 out.
Batter hits a fly ball to center, runner on 3rd tags but the runner on 1st thinks there are already 2 outs. centerfielder catches the ball and throws to 1st, and the runner is thrown out on a force at 1st. the runner on 3rd crossed home before the 3rd out was recorded.

Does the run count? Can someone quote the rule? thanks.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Does the run count?

The run shouldn't count, unless I'm a complete idiot, which is possible.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Does the run count?

You play college baseball and you don't know that the run doesn't count? I simply can't believe that. Was there actual controversy involved in the call?
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Does the run count?

From MLB's rulebook:

7.12
Unless two are out, the status of a following runner is not affected by a preceding runner’s failure to touch or retouch a base. If, upon appeal, the preceding runner is the third out, no runners following him shall score. If such third out is the result of a force play, neither preceding nor following runners shall score.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:43 PM
Jack of Arcades Jack of Arcades is offline
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Default Re: Does the run count?

The run counts because this is an appeal play. It would not account if there was a force out.

Edited my edit, I was right the first time.
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Does the run count?

the umps ruled the run counts, thats why i was satonished and had to post this. thats why i asked for a rule
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: Does the run count?

Hmm. I read it again, the rule seems to apply only to following runners. In this case, the preceding runner scores, but it wasn't a force out. So maybe it should count.

Or is that play considered a force out?
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Old 04-26-2007, 06:51 PM
Jack of Arcades Jack of Arcades is offline
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Default Re: Does the run count?

Here's the college rule

(9) If there are two outs before the appeal on a runner, the appeal
becoming the third out, no runners following the appealed out shall
score, and if the appeal is a force out, no runners preceding or following
the appealed out shall score.
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Does the run count?

Which runner is the following runner and which is the preceding? What is an appeal play?

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Old 04-26-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: Does the run count?

Based on these rules, the run shouldn't count, unless I'm missing something obvious in those rules.

But without the rule, I would have thought the run would've counted.
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