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Does the run count?
This situation came up in my college baseball game wed:
Runners on 1st and 3rd, 1 out. Batter hits a fly ball to center, runner on 3rd tags but the runner on 1st thinks there are already 2 outs. centerfielder catches the ball and throws to 1st, and the runner is thrown out on a force at 1st. the runner on 3rd crossed home before the 3rd out was recorded. Does the run count? Can someone quote the rule? thanks. |
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Re: Does the run count?
The run shouldn't count, unless I'm a complete idiot, which is possible.
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#3
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Re: Does the run count?
You play college baseball and you don't know that the run doesn't count? I simply can't believe that. Was there actual controversy involved in the call?
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Re: Does the run count?
From MLB's rulebook:
7.12 Unless two are out, the status of a following runner is not affected by a preceding runner’s failure to touch or retouch a base. If, upon appeal, the preceding runner is the third out, no runners following him shall score. If such third out is the result of a force play, neither preceding nor following runners shall score. |
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Re: Does the run count?
The run counts because this is an appeal play. It would not account if there was a force out.
Edited my edit, I was right the first time. |
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Re: Does the run count?
the umps ruled the run counts, thats why i was satonished and had to post this. thats why i asked for a rule
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Re: Does the run count?
Hmm. I read it again, the rule seems to apply only to following runners. In this case, the preceding runner scores, but it wasn't a force out. So maybe it should count.
Or is that play considered a force out? |
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Re: Does the run count?
Here's the college rule
(9) If there are two outs before the appeal on a runner, the appeal becoming the third out, no runners following the appealed out shall score, and if the appeal is a force out, no runners preceding or following the appealed out shall score. |
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Re: Does the run count?
Which runner is the following runner and which is the preceding? What is an appeal play?
Thanks, Baseball N00bs |
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Re: Does the run count?
Based on these rules, the run shouldn't count, unless I'm missing something obvious in those rules.
But without the rule, I would have thought the run would've counted. |
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