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#1
06-17-2007, 10:46 PM
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Flopped Flush
Live 2-5 NL
6 limpers and I ($700) check Th 9h in the BB. Flop comes Q J 7 all hearts Checked to Villain 1 ($600) who bets $30. Villain 2 ($300) calls in middle position and I call. V1 is a local pro who is very observant, patient and tight. When he builds a big stack he cashes out and comes back an hour later. V2 makes loose calls and is generally weak passive. I have a loose and aggressive image from winning a nice pot with 32s, but am playing pretty snug because the cards had been running cold. Turn (pot $125)is the 5c. I check, V1 bets $60, V2 quickly makes it $120, my move? Does your action change if hero and V1 have $1500 stacks? 
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#3
06-19-2007, 03:18 AM
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Re: Flopped Flush
I will often lead/CR this flop, but decided to CR the turn with similar action as on the flop and a safe card, but the strange bet by V1 and the min raise made things interesting.
I don't think folding can be right. I ended up flat calling, but perhaps raising to $200 is better...
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#4
06-19-2007, 03:23 AM
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Re: Flopped Flush
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V1 is a local pro who is very observant, patient and tight. When he builds a big stack he cashes out and comes back an hour later. [/ QUOTE ] awesome
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#5
06-19-2007, 03:27 AM
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Re: Flopped Flush
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I will often lead/CR this flop, but decided to CR the turn with similar action as on the flop and a safe card, but the strange bet by V1 and the min raise made things interesting. I don't think folding can be right. I ended up flat calling, but perhaps raising to $200 is better... [/ QUOTE ] Why would you ever want to cr the turn? That was very very bad. Cards come that kill your action ..cards come that kill you.. they are paying off with more hands on the flop than they are the turn etc etc. It's very backwards that you want to raise now and didn't think it was a good idea then.
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#7
06-19-2007, 04:06 AM
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Re: Flopped Flush
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[ QUOTE ] fold turn.... you should be leading or c/ring that flop though [/ QUOTE ] fold the third nuts with a straight flush re-draw in this spot? no. [/ QUOTE ] good idea, chase up to 2 outs. we also don't have close to the 3rd nuts
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#8
06-19-2007, 12:42 PM
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Re: Flopped Flush
Just to make it clear the board is
Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero has T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] V2 is pretty loose and V1 made a pretty weak bet on the turn. I just wasn't sure if he was doing it with the nuts, the dry ace or a set. My flat call on the turn looks very scary, no? But if V1 has a set its no good. V1 ended up folding the dry Kh on the turn. The river was another 7 and I set V2 in for his other $150
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#9
06-19-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: Flopped Flush
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] fold turn.... you should be leading or c/ring that flop though [/ QUOTE ] fold the third nuts with a straight flush re-draw in this spot? no. [/ QUOTE ] good idea, chase up to 2 outs. we also don't have close to the 3rd nuts [/ QUOTE ] am i missing something? we lose to Ax and Kx of hearts? Yes there are more than 2 combinations of hands that beat us, but that does not mean our hand is not the 3rd nuts.
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#10
06-19-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: Flopped Flush
I'd flatcall V2 and fold if V1 reraises, and probably call down river vs V2. I don't like your flatcall on flop I raise this all day for more info.
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