NL10 77 Squeeze, c-bet?

[vixticator]

UTG raises quite a bit... 35/20/1 type.

When he calls PF, do I follow through here? How much? What kind of hands should I squeeze a loose raiser and caller with... is 77 good?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $4.77
BB: $32.18
UTG: $20.08
MP: $10.34
CO: $8.75
Hero (BTN): $24.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.15</font>, MP calls $0.15, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.60, MP folds

Flop: ($1.72) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.70</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $4.20</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $7.62 ($0.25 Rake)

[KEW]

I do not like turning a hand with HUGE implied odds into a BLUFF by squeezing...At this level the amount of $$$$$ you win when you flop a set far out way the $$$$$ you win when you either take the pot down PF or on the flop with a C-bet...

After the squeeze I play the flop the same...

[Restlys]

the way id play it would be to min raise preeflop just to give the expected set some more value, since you get the same %% anyways....they all call and if they pull out a huge reraise, you know where your at

[jessyj07]

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the way id play it would be to min raise preeflop just to give the expected set some more value,

[/ QUOTE ]please don't. people at the $10 will give away their stacks in unraised pots nevermind setting up a big pot with a min 3 bet.

[KEW]

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the way id play it would be to min raise preeflop just to give the expected set some more value, since you get the same %% anyways....they all call and if they pull out a huge reraise, you know where your at

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A min 3 bet will throw our implied odds out the window..Even worse are the times villain has AA/KK and blows us off our hand..We want to be playing our small pairs vs villain BIG pairs...

[vixticator]

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We want to be playing our small pairs vs villain BIG pairs...

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, but isn't it also good to get fold from suited connecting hands PF? Also, premium hands that will check/fold flop OOP like AK, AQ (not here, in theory) and hands like KQs, JTs+, etc., that elect to see flop. Plus the dead money on the overcall which is probably folding to raise.

Do you raise here with 99? 10's?

[KEW]

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We want to be playing our small pairs vs villain BIG pairs...

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, but isn't it also good to get fold from suited connecting hands PF? Also, premium hands that will check/fold flop OOP like AK, AQ (not here, in theory) and hands like KQs, JTs+, etc., that elect to see flop. Plus the dead money on the overcall which is probably folding to raise.

Do you raise here with 99? 10's?

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The hands/reasons you mention is why I would rather squeeze with 72o then 77..When squeezing we are looking for FE(or hands like SCs that flop concealed monsters) so our hand really doesn't matter...

[Vyse]

Really don't mind the raise that much, to be honest.

I cbet 2/3 pot in re-raised pots. Why are you betting the pot? And yes, almost always cbet after yuo 3bet someone, you have huge FE

[KEW]

Do you raise here with 99? 10's?

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I will 3 bet with TT a little then 50% of the time and 99 about 33%..Smaller then 99 next to never...These 3 bet % go WAY up as the aggro PFR move into LP...With the PFR on our immediate left and a caller in between we are in great position to extract on the flop when we do flop our set vs an aggro UTG raiser...

[vixticator]

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The hands/reasons you mention is why I would rather squeeze with 72o then 77..When squeezing we are looking for FE(or hands like SCs that flop concealed monsters) so our hand really doesn't matter...

[/ QUOTE ]This makes sense. You'd like this better if I had 76s, for instance?