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Old 06-03-2007, 07:56 PM
iSTRONG iSTRONG is offline
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Default Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

UTG is 25/22/3.5 (solid TAG), Button is 32/23/4.2 (aggro-donk)

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $388.00
<font color="black">iSTRONG (BB): $472.00</font>
UTG: $380.00
BTN: $400.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> iSTRONG is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $16.00</font>, BTN calls $16.00, SB folds, iSTRONG calls $12.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
iSTRONG checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $39.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $108.00</font>, <font color="red">iSTRONG ...?
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

No way. We are huge here.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

AI
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

folding isn't terrible tbh, folded a gutshot + FD other day.

I mean calling isn't that bad too, shoving is ok.

It doesn't make that much difference.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:02 PM
Teh1337zor Teh1337zor is offline
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

this is a fd and an open ender
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

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this is a fd and an open ender

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Some of my outs could easily be counterfeited tho.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:04 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

Sam says:
push and lose to nutflush
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

as long as you dont fold it doesnt matter.

besides, why are you calling pf if you want to find a way getting away from this spot?
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

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as long as you dont fold it doesnt matter.

besides, why are you calling pf if you want to find a way getting away from this spot?

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the boad was 79xss get all in, the fact our draw is worth less especially given the action means this isnt an automatic play.
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Old 06-03-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: Flopped a big draw; but can i lay it down?

I think it's a clear fold. You play a hand like 8T to flop two pair, better or at least an openender. In this case you could be chasing the 2nd nut flush with 3 higher spades left. As for the str8, you really probably have only 3 outs (4 7's minus the 7s). The Q can give someone broadway. Overall, I think the best information here is the raise by the BTN on a highly coordinated flop. This should be an easy fold. But then, that's also not a hand you play for a pre flop raise out of position.
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