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Old 06-01-2007, 10:46 PM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default hero call or brilliant?

villian is unknown, but 25/16 over 100 hands

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $70.70
UTG+1: $220.90
Hero: $497
Button: $386
SB: $396
BB: $400

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($34, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $24</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($82, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $60</font>, Button calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($202, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $202</font>, Hero calls.

thoughts?
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

brilliant? standard.
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

perfection
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

i like it
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:25 AM
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

i like it ..but i am a station...esp on the river.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

I like it, I think his betsize indicates a bluff very often.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

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I like it, I think his betsize indicates a bluff very often.

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yea this is pretty standard, i cant see him trying to push this hard with a medium jack for value. A strong jack prolly raises earlier in the hand, i like this call
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

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I like it, I think his betsize indicates a bluff very often.

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yea this is pretty standard, i cant see him trying to push this hard with a medium jack for value. A strong jack prolly raises earlier in the hand, i like this call

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Wouldnt the fact that it looks very suspicious make it a good betsize if villain's betting for value? The only problem I see is what villain would put hero on, since there aren't a lot of hands that would bet two barrels and call the river bet and lose to villain's hand.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:45 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

I dont like this as much as others have said, I think its pretty close and I would err on the side of folding. I think this is usually a value bet from a jack here. A 25/16 is very likely to raise a draw before he gets to the river, and if he didnt I dont think he would full pot bluff.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: hero call or brilliant?

depends on some metagame factors, if you have called thin against this opponent before, i think he could be valuing QJ-AJ thinnly. if he has been checking behind with medium strength hands, its an easy call. With no read i would close my eyes and call.
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