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Old 05-31-2007, 11:32 AM
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hero is seen as tag, utg+1 is quite straight forward tag, utg+2 is lag with ability to get out of line...
utg+1 limps, utg+2 limps, sb folds, hero in bb raises with KhKc, utg+1 calls, utg+2 back raises, hero 4-bets, utg+1 takes two more to the face, utg+2 caps

flop Th 7h 3s: hero bets, utg+1 folds, utg+2 raises, hero calls
turn Qh: hero checks, utg+2 bets, hero c/r, utg+2 3-balls, hero ...

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villain (good, but quite lag player) raises in utg+2, 2 calls from late position weak calling stations, hero 3-bets AcQc from sb, villain 4-bets both call, hero caps

flop Jc Th 3s: hero bets, villain raises, 1 cold call, hero calls
turn 8c: hero checks, villain bets, late position calls, hero raises, villain 3-bets, late position calls, hero...

river X: how do we play the following, and where do we put each of these guys?
Qx
Ax
3c
Tc
non-pairing runner flush
Kx
9x
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:11 PM
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hand 1: ugh.. just 3-bet the flop... with the Kh you're obligated to call down...

hand 2: i don't like 5-capping AQs oop even against lags.. i wouldn't bet the flop either... and i definately would not raise the turn... what are you hoping you'd fold after your 5-cap and he raises the flop and bet the turn?

just be content in trying to suck out... you have a million outs no need to pay the max to hit it...
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:20 PM
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Default Re: another 2 from 30-60

when were these hands played?
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Old 05-31-2007, 12:27 PM
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few months ago, maybe feb
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: another 2 from 30-60

What can you do besides call in hand 1? Also, I would have just 3 balled the flop.

Hand 2: I don't like to 3 bet AQ from the blinds here when you know you are going to have to play in 4 ways out of position.

I just check call in hand 2 on the turn, you ahve a lot of outs but they are outs, not a made hand.

If I don't river the nuts I am not looking to put in any more than 1 bet on the river.
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:46 PM
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1) hero calls, river is 2s, check-call villain's AhJh good

2) hero calls, river is Ah, check-check-check, my ace good
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:51 PM
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hand 2 is gross
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:57 PM
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What can you do besides call in hand 1? Also, I would have just 3 balled the flop.

Hand 2: I don't like to 3 bet AQ from the blinds here when you know you are going to have to play in 4 ways out of position.

I just check call in hand 2 on the turn, you ahve a lot of outs but they are outs, not a made hand.

If I don't river the nuts I am not looking to put in any more than 1 bet on the river.

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I dont mind the 3-bet pf, the cap is over the top. The cr on turn in hand 2 is spewy also.
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:23 PM
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The Qh is one of the worst cards in the deck for you to c/r with. If villain has QQ he just made a set and if he's got AA your still behind. 3bomb the flop and go from there. If you just call the flop cc the turn and river unless you improve

Hand 2: I don't mind the 3 bet here pf, you have a hand that plays well multway and there equity against a laggy players hand range. Once he 4 bets though I think I shut it down and just call.

Flop: Umm I guess you bet b/c you had to since you 5 bet pf. Well at least his range narrows down his holdings.

Turn: This isn't the right guy to c/r b/c he's not the type who can lay down an overpair which he pretty much is representing. I just cc here and hope for a club

River plan: I would bet any A, c/r a club and c/f a Q
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