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Old 05-29-2007, 08:38 PM
KRANTZ KRANTZ is offline
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Default 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

This is like one of the sickest pots I've played in the past 5 months:

Full Tilt Poker Game #2539262433: Table Rock Port (6 max) - $25/$50 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:22:14 ET - 2007/05/29
Seat 1: pr1nnyraid ($12,313)
Seat 3: StillTippin ($25,010.50)
Seat 4: hwansang ($2,496)
Seat 5: supalunatik ($4,922)
Seat 6: Cappy0501 ($2,000)
Nils Thorson adds $5,000
StillTippin posts the small blind of $25
hwansang posts the big blind of $50
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pr1nnyraid [5h 6h]
pr1nnyraid raises to $175
StillTippin has 15 seconds left to act
StillTippin raises to $600
hwansang folds
pr1nnyraid calls $425
*** FLOP *** [4s Jh 4h]
StillTippin bets $850
pr1nnyraid calls $850
*** TURN *** [4s Jh 4h] [3h]
StillTippin has 15 seconds left to act
StillTippin bets $2,000
pr1nnyraid calls $2,000
*** RIVER *** [4s Jh 4h 3h] [7s]
StillTippin has 15 seconds left to act
StillTippin bets $21,560.50, and is all in

My image is pretty aggro. I don't know if he plays on Stars but I am a huge maniac calling station crazy player there. My only read on him is that he's been tight, and should probably be reraising tight against me this deep OOP. I have no stats.

It's an overbet on the river - $8900 to me.

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Old 05-29-2007, 08:56 PM
IcarusJam IcarusJam is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

i am not a player in higher stakes, but i think this is a call if he is super lag, river bluffing frequently. What history do you have with the villian more speicically?
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

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i am not a player in higher stakes, but i think this is a call if he is super lag, river bluffing frequently. What history do you have with the villian more speicically?

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no history and like i said he's not LAG imo, at least not while i've been playing with him
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

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i am not a player in higher stakes, but i think this is a call if he is super lag, river bluffing frequently. What history do you have with the villian more speicically?

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no history and like i said he's not LAG imo, at least not while i've been playing with him

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but maybe ppl who play with him regularly can help out with a better read
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Old 05-29-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

stilltippin plays kinda weird sometimes. He'll play tight all session and then go crazy every once in awhile. I think i call here.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:10 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

Cant imagine folding tbh, its 9k into 7k, so not a crazy overbet, and he prob. figures there is a decent chance you have QQ KK and would be pushing AA here for value.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

I dont know this player but i'd call and expect to see AA/bluff > 50% of the time.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

How can you even consider folding? I snap call... You're ahead of like 80% of his value betting range...
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:25 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

call because he can bet worse for value. like it, but don't love it. in my experience with him at 5/10 he was kind of weird/loose, but i only have prob 1k hands with him. actually he was kind of straightforwardish against me.
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Old 05-29-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 DEEP - why is HE doing all the betting and the shoving?!?

You guys are way off in thinking he is valueshoving a lot of of worse hands... I think it's a call but it seems very close.
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