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Old 05-23-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

I have been doing some rough estimates regarding the worth of FPPs and VPPs as well as the supernova elite level on pokerstars, and i will mention their benefits etc, as rakeback, as you earn 5 FPP and 5 VPP for each 1$ rake.

All in all, my 'rakeback' % at supernova elite level is very high.

I would love to share my analysis and would ask people to check it.
But before I do that, can anyone give me a rough estimate of what they think the 'rakeback' percentage is?

I am posting this under MTT, as my analysis solely examine the MTTs and not multitabling ring games or SNGs to achieve the supernova elite.
I know its insane, but i just want to get an idea about how insane.

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Old 05-23-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

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I have been doing some rough estimates regarding the worth of FPPs and VPPs as well as the supernova elite level on pokerstars, and i will mention their benefits etc, as rakeback, as you earn 5 FPP and 5 VPP for each 1$ rake.

All in all, my 'rakeback' % at supernova elite level is very high.

I would love to share my analysis and would ask people to check it.
But before I do that, can anyone give me a rough estimate of what they think the 'rakeback' percentage is?

I am posting this under MTT, as my analysis solely examine the MTTs and not multitabling ring games or SNGs to achieve the supernova elite.
I know its insane, but i just want to get an idea about how insane.

Kind Regards,

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Old 05-23-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

it's impossible to get supernova elite through mtts only.

You would need to pay $200k in rake for the year, which means ~$1.8mil in buyins, or $5000/day every day. It's pretty tough to do $5k in a day (Stars only) on a Sunday, even a sunday with a $1k.
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

regular supernova = 28% OMG
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Old 05-23-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

Do a google search, all of this crap was figured out a long time ago.
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

I know its insane but bear with me.
If one plays all major MTTs on Sunday, $100+ buyins, 7 * $109 + 4 * $215 = $860+763 = 1623$ wagered in total = $1500 + $123 rake

Total FPP on sunday = 615 FPP or 18450 per month (30 days) at basic level (not silver, gold, etc) but times it with 4 at elite level = 73800 points per month 0r 885600 per year.

Now it doesnt seem impossible. This shows that although getting to supernova elite level is impossible with MTTs alone, once there, maintaining elite level with MTTs alone it certainly doable. Yet, humanly impossible.

But this is not the point of this post.

I am rather interested in the "rakeback".
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

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I know its insane but bear with me.
If one plays all major MTTs on Sunday, $100+ buyins, 7 * $109 + 4 * $215 = $860+763 = 1623$ wagered in total = $1500 + $123 rake

Total FPP on sunday = 615 FPP or 18450 per month (30 days) at basic level (not silver, gold, etc) but times it with 4 at elite level = 73800 points per month 0r 885600 per year.

Now it doesnt seem impossible. This shows that although getting to supernova elite level is impossible with MTTs alone, once there, maintaining elite level with MTTs alone it certainly doable. Yet, humanly impossible.

But this is not the point of this post.

I am rather interested in the "rakeback".

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FPP <> VPP

You do not get the "bonus" points to contribute to your reaching Supernova Elite. You have to get 1,000,000 RAW points.
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

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Do a google search, all of this crap was figured out a long time ago.

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I did. But at every other forum, instead of a serious, well thought, answer, people are just guesstimating.

At fullcontact some1 figures it to be 48%,
at Pocket5 they think its 100%.
Soe think its the same as FT rakeback - 27%.
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

What do u mean raw points.

VPP - Just to keep track of your results and to see what level you are at according to stars.

FPP - Obviously, spendable, and has some dollar value.
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Old 05-23-2007, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: supernova elite, MTTs, and \"rakeback\"!

My analysis is based on supernova elite only, as once you reach elite status, your "rakeback" (as I like to call the total bonuses, event packages, FPPs, etc), increases more exponentially mainly due to the obvious $30,600 (WSOP,EPT,WCOOP), and 400% FPP perhaps, but mainly due to the 30K.
Hence, though relly harder to achieve, benefits increase "rakeback" , equity, insanely for a high volume player.
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