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05-21-2007, 10:34 PM
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Live $1/$2 NL: QQ UTG+1 after strong UTG raise
I know, I know -- I'm weak tight, should have raised, yada yada.. just thought I'd post this so some people can tell me how bad I am.
Live $1/$2 NL, I've been at the table for several hours, and a "new guy" sat down about 1hr ago on my right. I have learned that he normally plays higher stakes, and is playing somewhat tight, but very aggressive. I've seen him instapush with flush draws, and always pot-sized continuation bets after raising pre-flop. I've not seen him show a losing hand. He has rarely limped into the pot. UTG & I have about $450 in chips. Other caller has about $100. He's UTG and raises to $12. I call with QQ. 1 other caller. Flop: AT2r. UTG bets $35. I fold. Other player folds. I ask him if he had AK -- he said no. AQ? "Close". I should have raised pre-flop right? And then after he calls, and bets the flop, I still fold? My thought was that since this guy c-bets 100% of the time, I raise as long as no A or K hits the flop. How bad is that thinking? 
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#2
05-21-2007, 10:39 PM
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Re: Live $1/$2 NL: QQ UTG+1 after strong UTG raise
You can 3 bet PF here as long as you can muster a fold if he 4 bets. If he calls the 3 bet, your QQ is good, if he 4 bets it's no good.
Do not raise the flop if you call PF. He should fold TPTK but AA or a set will stack you.
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#3
05-21-2007, 11:18 PM
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Re: Live $1/$2 NL: QQ UTG+1 after strong UTG raise
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Do not raise the flop if you call PF. He should fold TPTK but AA or a set will stack you. [/ QUOTE ] How will he fold TPTK if I don't raise? You want me to call on this flop and bet turn if he checks? Fold if he bets the turn? I'm not following you.
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#4
05-21-2007, 11:23 PM
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Re: Live $1/$2 NL: QQ UTG+1 after strong UTG raise
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You want me to call on this flop and bet turn if he checks? [/ QUOTE ] Bingo. When you flop an overpair: Call flop, bet or call turn, check behind or fold river (he's not 3 barreling).
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#5
05-22-2007, 01:40 PM
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Re: Live $1/$2 NL: QQ UTG+1 after strong UTG raise
Definitely bump it preflop.
As played, I think floating here with position and your read on him is a good play. His range is much much wider than A10+ if he is always cbetting. That said, if he is a thinking player, than a lot of your decisions should be based on how you both have acted in previous spots. If he shuts down on called cbets my desire to peel the turn goes up, if he doesn't it goes down but then i might repop the flop bet. A preflop raise followed by a cbet doesn't always mean TPTK, especially live...
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#6
05-22-2007, 01:55 PM
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Re: Live $1/$2 NL: QQ UTG+1 after strong UTG raise
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[ QUOTE ] You want me to call on this flop and bet turn if he checks? [/ QUOTE ] Bingo. When you flop an overpair: Call flop, bet or call turn, check behind or fold river (he's not 3 barreling). [/ QUOTE ] When I flop an overpair, I'm raising on the flop. Firing again on the turn if he calls and still no overcards. The main question I guess is what should I have done pre-flop?
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#7
05-22-2007, 02:07 PM
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Re: Live $1/$2 NL: QQ UTG+1 after strong UTG raise
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Definitely bump it preflop. [/ QUOTE ] Against most players I definitely would. I guess since I have position on him, and he's 100% c-betting here, I thought I might make more just calling, rather than raising and having him fold. I'm probably wrong -- if anyone has the #s on this, that would be good. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] As played, I think floating here with position and your read on him is a good play. His range is much much wider than A10+ if he is always cbetting. [/ QUOTE ] Float on the flop? I think I have to raise or fold on this flop. I think his range AJ+, mid-high PPs, and maybe some high SCs. I guess even though I was pretty sure he was going to c-bet, I find it hard to believe he still would without an ace here, after 2 cold-calls pre-flop.
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#8
05-22-2007, 05:02 PM
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Re: Live $1/$2 NL: QQ UTG+1 after strong UTG raise
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As played, I think floating here with position and your read on him is a good play. His range is much much wider than A10+ if he is always cbetting. [/ QUOTE ] Float on the flop? I think I have to raise or fold on this flop. I think his range AJ+, mid-high PPs, and maybe some high SCs. I guess even though I was pretty sure he was going to c-bet, I find it hard to believe he still would without an ace here, after 2 cold-calls pre-flop. [/ QUOTE ] If you;re pretty sure he has an ace with the 2 cold calls preflop then fold for sure. I'd advocate floating only if you thought he would cbet no matter what. If that's not the case, flaoting and raising are probably bad ideas. That said, I still think you bump it preflop for value, and too keep others out of the hand.
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