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#1
05-20-2007, 11:22 AM
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getting odds to draw to set
Flop better is new at the table, all I know is he did prepost.
Absolute Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $3/$6 6 players Converter Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls, BB calls, UTG calls. Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (20.67SB, 5 players) BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero... 
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#3
05-20-2007, 01:08 PM
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Re: getting odds to draw to set
I call the flop too, tho I feel better with the Jc obviously. Im not sure how much cr's mite hurt our pot odds but I think our pot odds are too big with implied odds to fold yet, and really after this action BB and UTG shouldnt be cr'ing AQ here. On the turn u can assume safely ur behind in this protected pot, UTG+1 pretty much never has TT or KcQc here.
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#4
05-20-2007, 04:44 PM
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Re: getting odds to draw to set
I think the fact that you might be drawing dead, and that UTG might raise turns this into a fold.
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#6
05-20-2007, 05:55 PM
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Re: getting odds to draw to set
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Flop better is new at the table, all I know is he did prepost. [/ QUOTE ] Can you tell us anything about the other three in the pot? I want to raise but I need more info... Guy.
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#7
05-20-2007, 06:55 PM
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Re: getting odds to draw to set
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[ QUOTE ] Flop better is new at the table, all I know is he did prepost. [/ QUOTE ] Can you tell us anything about the other three in the pot? I want to raise but I need more info... Guy. [/ QUOTE ] My first thoughts exactly Guy. However rarely will a better hand fold. UTG+1 PF line looks like BS to me though. I still think it's worth it if we can buy the button and get a free peep at the river. Like Jstill mentioned though i would much prefer it and almost definatly raise if I had the J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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#8
05-20-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: getting odds to draw to set
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Flop better is new at the table, all I know is he did prepost. [/ QUOTE ] Can you tell us anything about the other three in the pot? I want to raise but I need more info... Guy. [/ QUOTE ] My first thoughts exactly Guy. However rarely will a better hand fold. UTG+1 PF line looks like BS to me though. I still think it's worth it if we can buy the button and get a free peep at the river. Like Jstill mentioned though i would much prefer it and almost definatly raise if I had the J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] I misread the pf action. Now im totally confused. I guess I like a raise now.
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#9
05-21-2007, 09:06 AM
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Re: getting odds to draw to set
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My first thoughts exactly Guy. However rarely will a better hand fold. UTG+1 PF line looks like BS to me [/ QUOTE ] That's exactly it. I don't care about UTG+1 at all - he's not the threat; at least, his action doesn't convince me that he is. But in a five way pot there's a good chance an ace is out there somewhere. I want to know if any of them is good/bad enough to fold one. Guy.
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