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05-18-2007, 07:05 AM
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Stab myself in the face?
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if you ever flip over quads after never putting in a bet or a raise anywhere you should go ahead and stab yourself in the face. [/ QUOTE ] ---- jba Stars 5/10 I raise 44, BB calls Flop KK4 BB chk-calls (I read this as suspicious from this chap) Turn: K chk-chk River: 4 chk- I didn't want to stab myself in the face so I shot myself in the foot instead. Stab or shoot? chez 
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#2
05-18-2007, 07:29 AM
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Re: Stab myself in the face?
Bet. The move to BBV?
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05-18-2007, 07:31 AM
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Re: Stab myself in the face?
??? will you get called and win more than 55% of the time?
Most players will call and play the board. He's even more likely to have AA than a K, not to mention any other pair. Then he can call with better than the board and still lose. What's more, what's wrong with shooting yourself in the foot once in a while. ??? if u bet the R, do you fold to a raise? Fonzi
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#4
05-18-2007, 07:38 AM
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Re: Stab myself in the face?
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Bet. The move to BBV? [/ QUOTE ] You can't call it a bad-beat every time you lose. but is there value in a bet and even if bet-fold is optimum then what's next best? chez
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05-18-2007, 07:44 AM
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Re: Stab myself in the face?
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??? will you get called and win more than 55% of the time? Most players will call and play the board. He's even more likely to have AA than a K, not to mention any other pair. Then he can call with better than the board and still lose. What's more, what's wrong with shooting yourself in the foot once in a while. ??? if u bet the R, do you fold to a raise? Fonzi [/ QUOTE ] No I didn't fold to the raise. If AA is more likely than a K then I can't, can I? chez
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05-18-2007, 08:10 AM
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Re: Stab myself in the face?
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I don't understand any of this. Villain will call with pocketpairs or playing the board here 99.7% of the time, and if he has a king not betting the river would be retarded. [/ QUOTE ] well-spotted. He bets do I stab myself in the face or shoot myself in the foot. chez
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#8
05-18-2007, 08:32 AM
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Re: Stab myself in the face?
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[ QUOTE ] I don't understand any of this. Villain will call with pocketpairs or playing the board here 99.7% of the time, and if he has a king not betting the river would be retarded. [/ QUOTE ] well-spotted. He bets do I stab myself in the face or shoot myself in the foot. chez [/ QUOTE ] Much more interesting, I think. Unless you know the guy really well, and knows whether he will bet here with complete air or not, then I think you have to raise. If you know he would never bet without something, then it's a pocketpair or a king. Pocketpairs are obviously more likely than the case king based on handcombos, but is it a pocketpair 2/3 of the time? Dunno. Some pocketpairs 3-bet preflop (especially if you were stealing. Do you raise 44 from any position?), and if not they might checkraise the flop. I think, that I just call.
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#9
05-18-2007, 10:15 AM
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Re: Stab myself in the face?
holy mackeral there's a full house on the table, raise. I bet in this spot just to make sure villain doesn't have "fold to ya mutha" clicked.
Raise. If he 3-bets, just call. I think i'm going bonkers or everybody else is going bonkers.
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#10
05-18-2007, 10:44 AM
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Re: Stab myself in the face?
it's you danza, you're misreading the action.
river is an easy easy bet. villain will put at least one bet in with 100% of his hands here. I would bet the turn as well because so many bad villains peel light on paired flops and will call a bet on this turn with ace high or worse. maybe I'm wrong about the turn though.
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