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Old 05-16-2007, 09:02 AM
badMETAsin badMETAsin is offline
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Default $2/4 NL: JJ overpair facing flop lead in 3 way reraised pot

Villain has only been playing at the table for a few orbits, but seemed to be a solid, aggressive player. Also, Villain nearly timed out before calling the re-raise preflop. BB is a fish with a VP$IP of 50+, so I'm not too worried about his hand.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $536.00
BB: $630.70
UTG: $359.50
MP: $298.20
CO: $863.00
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $425.90</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $14.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $44.00, CO calls $34.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($146) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets $100.00</font>, Hero?
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:12 AM
wtf5 wtf5 is offline
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Default Re: $2/4 NL: JJ overpair facing flop lead in 3 way reraised pot

Ehm completely misread the hand sorry.

If hes good then i like a shove. If hes a NIT then probably a fold.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:33 AM
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Default Re: $2/4 NL: JJ overpair facing flop lead in 3 way reraised pot

why would villain being good make a shove optimal?

I like a fold
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: $2/4 NL: JJ overpair facing flop lead in 3 way reraised pot

because hes more likely to have S.C. and hands were ahead of.

The timebanking preflop might mean he wasnt sure whether to play his hand, saw the fish 150 deep and thought "might be able to stack him" and called with Q,10hh.

If hes a Nit then this is probably a set here always or at the best A,Qhh.
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Old 05-16-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: $2/4 NL: JJ overpair facing flop lead in 3 way reraised pot

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why would villain being good make a shove optimal?

I like a fold

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because if he is good then he can lead with hands like 99 TT or Ace big trying to take hero off another ace big. He could also be leading with any amount of draws whereas a nit probably wouldn't and if he is more nitty then a higher % of his range is crushing JJ.
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Old 05-16-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: $2/4 NL: JJ overpair facing flop lead in 3 way reraised pot

I didn't know this at the time because he had just sat down, but villain is a Cardrunners member and seemed to be a solid, aggressive player.

Assuming he's competent, is it fair to say that his range is probably something like 44, 66, 88-TT, QQ(?), AKh, AQh, and maybe T9h? Also, in a later hand he called a re-raise OOP and check-raised with JJ on a KhJhx flop. Can I therefore rule out flopped sets, or not considering he might be more likely to lead out in a 3way pot as to not to give a free card on a draw heavy board?
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