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Old 05-07-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default where did the first cell come from?

what are your thoughts on where the first cell came from.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: where did the first cell come from?

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what are your thoughts on where the first cell came from.

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It might be a stretch but...define cell? I think its reasonable that there were microorganelles before they decided it would be nice living in a lipid bilayer instead of out on the street.

But really, I have no good answers for this. Fascinating question though, I really hope someone on here knows.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: where did the first cell come from?

God created it.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: where did the first cell come from?

Sooo lazy but a picture of a big cell phone + Zach morris would knock em dead here.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:30 PM
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Drop a some phospholipids in some water. You will see tiny spheres (cells) form automatically. It has to do with hydrophobic/hydrophilic interactions. The most dominant organism in the ocean has only 1.3 million base pairs and 500,000 of these cells can fit in a milliliter of water. There are 3.612 x 10^20 gallons of sea water in the ocean. And there are 3784 milliliters per gallon. Multiply all that by half a million to get the number of these cells that could fit in the ocean.

In other words, you have one gigantor sample set. I doubt anyone here can truly appreciate just how big those numbers are.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:38 PM
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Default Re: where did the first cell come from?

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Sooo lazy but a picture of a big cell phone + Zach morris would knock em dead here.

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I got here too late. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:39 PM
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Default Re: where did the first cell come from?

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It might be a stretch but...define cell? I think its reasonable that there were microorganelles before they decided it would be nice living in a lipid bilayer instead of out on the street.

But really, I have no good answers for this. Fascinating question though, I really hope someone on here knows.

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cell as in the basic unit of life.

not that it's important outside of trivial knowledge, but i'de like to hear some of your opinions. you guys usually have plausable, or at least intresting theories on a variety of subjects.

i don't think there really is an explination except for cells were either a) always around since the begining of time [atheist point of view] or b) supernaturally created [God beleiver]. i'm religious but i do like to consider purely scientific fact without throwing in God, and there seems to be no realistic scientific explination for this to occur.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:42 PM
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and there seems to be no realistic scientific explination for this to occur.

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This is a soap bubble. Slap some DNA or RNA in it and you have a cell. Do it enough times and you will eventually get one that works.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: where did the first cell come from?

wacki,

That's a heck of an oversimplification, as I'm sure you know. From what I gather we have limited knowledge about the possiblity of various steps (apart from the two you mention, and others).

But I'm pretty sure Sklansky's ancestors were involved in it somehow. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:44 PM
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what are your thoughts on where the first cell came from.

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Something very similar to a cell, but slightly less complicated.
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