200NL - tough spot w/combo draw

[Fat Nicky]

villain is 17/11/3.3...we've played one big pot where i opened Kh Qh in the SB, flop was Kx Th 3h, i bet flop, he raised 4x, I shoved and he called w/KTo. I have no seen anything crazy from this guy otherwise.

On to the hand in question.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $198.00
<font color="black">BB: $244.50</font>
UTG: $285.30
<font color="black">Hero (MP): $342.15</font>
CO: $238.55
BTN: $102.10

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $4.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($13) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $30.00</font>,

should we just be 3-betting right away, or just call the flop? on this board and given his range, how much fold equity to we have if we 3-bet.. If we just call a lot of the times he will price us out from seeing the river if a blank hits on the turn...

thoughts?

[Reef]

he's probably really nitty and our str8 outs are dirty. I don't mind just calling position (once in awhile checking flop)

[cbloom]

You probably have no FE so just call.

[orange]

cawl

[steel108]

You have a gutshot straight flush draw (Mr obvious), but in all likelyhood, alot of your outs could be dirty. Just call. If he fires big again on the turn, I might just give it up there.

[Isura]

way to think for yourself guys..

[orange]

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way to think for yourself guys..

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care to explain? this looks like a call here. i dont think we have much FE if we 3-bet or whatever and calling seems best with position.

[Isura]

This is typical of most threads in SSNL these days. 1 or 2 known posters gives an opinion, and everyone agrees or accepts without really thinking about it for themselves. For example, even with 0 FE, shoving can still be the best play.

[Isura]

fwiw this happens in msnl too, but I really don't give a [censored] since I need to win monies of those donks.

[orange]

is my range too narrow?

Hand 0: 37.900% 37.54% 00.36% 23784 229.50 { 8d7d }
Hand 1: 62.100% 61.74% 00.36% 39117 229.50 { JJ-TT, ATs+, KQs, ATo+, KQo }


i figure with the history hand, he can have some weaker hands here despite his stats.