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Old 05-13-2007, 04:02 AM
Bubble Bully Bubble Bully is offline
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Default Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

Is this as awful as it looks? I was trying to change up my play. I'm normally Betting or Raising every pot I enter.

Absolute Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button calls, HERO calls, BB checks.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">HERO bets</font>, 2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">HERO bets</font>, Button calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">HERO bets</font>, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7BB
<font color="#ffffff">HERO Shows As Ad</font>
<font color="#ffffff">Button Shows 8s Jd</font>
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:44 AM
Bruce D Bruce D is offline
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

Unless you are playing against tough opponents, don't change up your play at this level. You have just cost yourself theoretical money. What if you bet and everyone folds? You just lost 2 BB. When 1.5-2BB/100 are considered a good winrate, you just lost your winrate for the next 100 hands.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

I used to slow play my pocket aces in late position and after about 20k hands compared my win rate to pocket k's, which i never slow play. My k's were double the win rate. Since then I bet out on a's. My a's will soon have a better win rate than my k's. You always want to isolate when you have monster pocket pairs.
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Old 05-13-2007, 04:51 AM
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

raise preflop please
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Old 05-13-2007, 05:04 AM
Douglas Leslie Douglas Leslie is offline
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

Why would you ever limp AA when two players are already in the pot, and there is every chance that the BB will come along for the ride? Limping AA is occasionally worth doing if you are at a very tight table and want to generate some action or you have a maniac on your left who you know is likely to raise you. It makes no sense whatsoever to limp in the SB when there are already two bets in the pot.
I have noticed recently at $1-$2 that a lot of players have started limping first in with AA from any position. No doubt they feel quite smug when their hand wins and their opponent is left looking a little foolish, but they forget that they have probably lost money in the process by failing to value bet. Limping first in on the button, as I have seen happen, is ridiculous. Who on earth believes any button has AA when he raises? If anything, I start to smell a rat if the it is limped in that situation.
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Old 05-13-2007, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

raise PF please. All other streets are fine.
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Old 05-13-2007, 07:51 AM
OziBattler OziBattler is offline
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

raise preflop, lose more when J8o wins the po here (hint: dont post results) but feel better because raising when you have the preflop nuts is the +EV thing to do

and FTW this one hand should be evidence that you have a good seat relative to a terrible player who you can exploit time after time
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:38 AM
Bubble Bully Bubble Bully is offline
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

Are there any good books that focus on 6max LHE at such stakes. I haven't played much limit, so a lot the time I'm guessing at what to do. I've read a few LHE books a long time ago, but most were geared towards FR in games where no one ever folds. Would a stox video membership be worthwhile for such low stakes?
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

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I used to slow play my pocket aces in late position and after about 20k hands compared my win rate to pocket k's, which i never slow play. My k's were double the win rate. Since then I bet out on a's. My a's will soon have a better win rate than my k's. You always want to isolate when you have monster pocket pairs.

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Wow, is that true? Could you post some screen shots of that?
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Was this a super foolish line? Limped big pair and....

*grunch*

You have to raise this preflop. If everyone quite a bit laterly folds it's a bummer but that's the way it goes. For what it's worth, I've seeing people doing this quite a bit lately on the micros. Don't do it.
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