NL 100 - Aces against super maniac

[YKMM]

Villain is 100/20/4.0 in 30 hands. Standard?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($18.50)
SB ($87.05)
BB ($97.45)
UTG ($60.05)
UTG+1 ($164.20)
MP1 ($20)
Hero ($106.60)
MP3 ($60.50)
CO ($110.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $5, UTG calls $5, UTG+1 calls $5.

Flop: ($24.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $44</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100.6</font>, UTG+1 calls $56.60.

[Jurrr]

Yes, despite the small sample. Sorry he had 52o.

[BigBiceps]

Do you see that there are 2 fives on the flop?

That means that if he has a 5 then you have 2 outs.

[jhill3535]

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Do you see that there are 2 fives on the flop?

That means that if he has a 5 then you have 2 outs.

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It is much more likely that he has an over pair than a 5 in his hand (given that 2 of them are on the board).

People labeled Super Maniacs tend to stack off with any over pair.

[King Spew]

It's a DREAM matchup for uber-Villain. You raised 2 limpers PF. Don't know what YOUR image is... but he can easily put you on a high pair after you (pre-flop betting) pot his bluff-inducing donk bet. Then he min raises you back.

What hand raises your good size flop bet? Not QQ-66. (Oh wait, he didn't raise PF..... really limits the pocket pairs, right?) Kx of spades? Not likely. 3-4 Spades.....maybe. We can name a TON of hands that will CALL your bet,,,,,, but what would min-raise back after a NO-RAISE preflop??

[GrandMelon]

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Do you see that there are 2 fives on the flop?

That means that if he has a 5 then you have 2 outs.

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umm no

[King Spew]

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Do you see that there are 2 fives on the flop?

That means that if he has a 5 then you have 2 outs.

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umm no

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ummmm NIT. Two aces and runner-runner flush so maybe 3?

[edit] EGADS runner runner str8 3.5 outs!

[jhill3535]

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It's a DREAM matchup for uber-Villain. You raised 2 limpers PF. Don't know what YOUR image is... but he can easily put you on a high pair after you (pre-flop betting) pot his bluff-inducing donk bet. Then he min raises you back.

What hand raises your good size flop bet? Not QQ-66. (Oh wait, he didn't raise PF..... really limits the pocket pairs, right?) Kx of spades? Not likely. 3-4 Spades.....maybe. We can name a TON of hands that will CALL your bet,,,,,, but what would min-raise back after a NO-RAISE preflop??

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What about KQss or any 2 spades for that matter?

[GrandMelon]

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Do you see that there are 2 fives on the flop?

That means that if he has a 5 then you have 2 outs.

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umm no

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ummmm NIT. Two aces and runner-runner flush so maybe 3?

[edit] EGADS runner runner str8 3.5 outs!

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Yes I realize that, I misinterpreted your post. I think he occasionally shows up with a 5 here but we'll be ahead way often than not.

[King Spew]

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What about KQss or any 2 spades for that matter?

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I think uber-Villain raises PF with KQs.

And without the nut FD, many would like to call Hero's first reraise than rereaise OOP IMHO.

Admittedly, we THINK we have a fish on the line.... but we don't know. PLUS, we have a GREAT hand for stackage. But I try to imagine that uber-villains know when to get out sooner, rather than later until proven otherwise.

It is a rare uber indeed that can uberdonk away on the 100NL tables. You wanna take em to the cleaners as soon as you can before they vaporize. I just tend to want to see more history before putting a BI out there.

I'm NOT saying Hero is wrong to rererePUSH in this spot. Lots of villains will min-bet back atcha.... but when the serious money hits the felt, they escape.

So in this case, what "good" uber will call the push? Even IF villain had the NUT FD, he wouldn't (unless he was off) CALL..... he woulda pushed instead of minraising... to get the FE that makes it EV+ to push. Calling would be sick IMHO, even with the nut FD.

So in my mind, it's either we are against a good uber w/ 22, or a five.....or we up against an ATC uber and we stack him on his draw USUALLY. When I add those two together, I think I am actually slightly behind.