Turn: bet out, check-call, or check-raise?

[Troll_Inc]

Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2)

Seat 1: Trolleur ($228 in chips)
Seat 2: Svenning ($371.45 in chips)
Seat 3: chuiwon ($150.35 in chips)
Seat 4: bn2b ($38 in chips)
Seat 5: maddis99 ($35.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Jillybean ($198 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Trolleur [6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

Jillybean: folds
Trolleur: raises $4 to $6
Svenning: calls $6
chuiwon: calls $6
bn2b: folds
maddis99: calls $4

*** FLOP *** [8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
maddis99: checks
Trolleur: bets $23.75
Svenning: calls $23.75 [No reads, but what we got here, top two here? -- I still haven't looked at the results]
chuiwon: folds
maddis99: folds

*** TURN *** [2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Trolleur: checks
Svenning: bets $69.50
Trolleur: calls $69.50

*** RIVER *** [5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Trolleur: checks. My reasoning here, is that he's more likely to bet with something I can call and beat.

p.s. Piiop, you approve of the preflop raise?

[sc000t]

Preflop is fine, leading the flop is great. I still be the turn hard as well.

As played on the river, I would lead out and value bet. You'll get alot of check behinds with trips/two pairs and such, and better flushes will still be betting. The only hand I see your river lead getting raised would be the NF, so I think you can lead out for 2/3 and try to get some money.

[iggymcfly]

Preflop, you could go either way, but with two weak suits you want to clean up, raising's probably best to thin the field. Flop bet's standard.

On the turn, even without a read, it kind of depends on how the games play at the site you're at. If they tend to play kind of TAP/trappy, then a c/c's good. If they're more aggressive, your opponents are more likely to see the flop bet as a simple C-bet and call light before giving up on the turn. If there's a decent chance of this, you want to give yourself a chance to take the pot down when you have a good draw and wouldn't be getting it in too bad against two pair or a set anyway.

On the river, I tend to bet out here most of the time, but I think I do it too much to the point that it's a leak. As long as you're mixing up your check/calling and betting frequency fairly well, I don't think it matters much what you do here.

[Full-Metall]

turn c/r would be sexy, i think

[Kala1928]

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turn c/r would be sexy, i think

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Too easy to call with naked ten for villain.

[CrushinFelt]

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Omaha Pot Limit ($1/$2)

Seat 1: Trolleur ($228 in chips)
Seat 2: Svenning ($371.45 in chips)
Seat 3: chuiwon ($150.35 in chips)
Seat 4: bn2b ($38 in chips)
Seat 5: maddis99 ($35.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Jillybean ($198 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Trolleur [6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

Jillybean: folds
Trolleur: raises $4 to $6
Svenning: calls $6
chuiwon: calls $6
bn2b: folds
maddis99: calls $4

*** FLOP *** [8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
maddis99: checks
Trolleur: bets $23.75
Svenning: calls $23.75 [No reads, but what we got here, top two here? -- I still haven't looked at the results]
chuiwon: folds
maddis99: folds

*** TURN *** [2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
Trolleur: checks
Svenning: bets $69.50
Trolleur: calls $69.50

*** RIVER *** [5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Trolleur: checks. My reasoning here, is that he's more likely to bet with something I can call and beat.

p.s. Piiop, you approve of the preflop raise?

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Check raise is pretty standard for me here because a lot of players will fire at this turn with a large range thinking that my flop bet was just a c-bet now showing weakness. Also, he is still deep enough (although it's fairly close) to be hesitant to call with too weak of a holding (i.e. pair + NFD or bottom two pair)

[GAL]

I'd go for a turn CR here trying to win the hand there and then as I don't think your spades are outs. As played -with no reads-I'd bet around $50 on this river and fold to a raise.

[autobet]

My standard play is to fold preflop. If I play it (maybe 1/3) I'm raising.

I will usually bet the turn. Now you can check the river hoping for a bet from a busted wrap draw.

[wazz]

You picked up 3 more straight outs on the turn. Check-raise.

[Kala1928]

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You picked up 3 more straight outs on the turn. Check-raise.

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But the deuce doesn't complete anything and doesn't give us a huge pot equity with our draw. So why raise when calling is +ev as well?

Not like the villain is going "well I'm potting this deuce turn becuase seems like I'm still good and then umm well he raised I guess I must be beat after all I fold". Atleast he shouldn't be betting and then folding. No matter what he calls the flop with and then bets.