JJ turn

[ejay]

villan is 30/11 over 60 or so hands..after he calls my pf rr do you still fire the flop?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $213.65
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $267.10</font>
UTG: $196.70
CO: $228.45
BTN: $183.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $9.00</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $29.00</font>, BTN calls $20.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($59) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $17.00</font>, Hero calls $17.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($93) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $68.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $161.00

[hotbacon]

Flop is a definite bet.
I'd play the turn the same if i played hte flop like that (i wouldn't)

[Mossberg]

yes fire the flop. I actually think c/c this flop is pretty bad.

[Michaelson]

I hate spots like this, but I hate giving up the initiative as well, especially with the flop this coordinated. I fire at the flop purely for the times it folds out overcards. I freak out and start playing badly if called, though, so who knows...

Also, once you've checked and he's bet like that, I think it's worth considering a raise. ~$65. I basically go after all puny bets like that, though. If he shoves on you I think it's a pretty easy fold. The problem comes if he smooth calls. But in that case it just comes back to the fact that playing JJ OOP in big pots sucks balls.

[AMT]

reads/aggression would help too. Id definitely lead this flop.

[Fat Nicky]

wow, you played this hand pretty awful. what's w/the flop check? surely, his range is wider that QQ+.

[Tickner]

Why did you check the flop?

[ejay]

yea i dont know what i was thinking with the flop c/c. I gave him too much credit after he called the pf 3bet.

[Michaelson]

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Why did you check the flop?

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Probably because he didn't know how he'd respond to a raise.

Which brings us back to the question: if you c-bet here and get shoved on, what's the play?

[Mossberg]

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Why did you check the flop?

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Which brings us back to the question: if you c-bet here and get shoved on, what's the play?

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It's kinda tough without any reads, but I think most opponents will just call and re-evaluate with TT/99. So I'd put him on QQ-AA, AdKd, which means we're in really bad shape vs his range (14% equity!).