Another flop situation

[Aaron W.]

The preflop raise was an isolation raise against a new player who seemed to be loose-passive. Unfortunately, it failed and I got 3-bet. On the other hand, I've flopped 2PTK and the nut backdoor flush draw and it's checked to me. SB is noted as a multitabler with good preflop stats over about 150 hands (26/17), but his postflop play looks a little on the loose-passive side (1.2 AF). Is this a value bet, or should I take the free card?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero...

[Douglas Leslie]

The check by SB looks a bit fishy. I would expect him to bet here regardless of whether he hit the flop, so he could be slow playing something like KK or 99. On the other hand, if he isn't making a fancy slow play, the pot is a fair size and betting out now might fold out hands that could beat you if they are given a free ride on the turn. I would bet but I'm probably folding on the turn if there is a flop check raise and my hand doesn't improve.

[Zeldark]

This looks like a decent spot for a check-reevaluate. SB wanting to C/R is not out of the question.

[Gib]

SB's check is unusual but he could also have something like AJs/AQ or he has a medium pair which he was hoping to get HU with urself, but is now scared due to the extras in the pot. He could also be trying something tricky hoping to fold out the other two, if he's got a monster (like KK) it is a rly stupid spot to go for a c/r, therefore I don't think thats the case.

I'm pretty confident you are in reasonable shape, I'd bet &amp; see what the other two do in the hand. I'd be wary of them drawing as well as having a K.

[MacGuyV]

I don't know why this would qualify as a "suspicious check". You guys always C-bet into 3 players in the worst position?

[bung]

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The preflop raise was an isolation raise against a new player who seemed to be loose-passive. Unfortunately, it failed and I got 3-bet. On the other hand, I've flopped 2PTK and the nut backdoor flush draw and it's checked to me. SB is noted as a multitabler with good preflop stats over about 150 hands (26/17), but his postflop play looks a little on the loose-passive side (1.2 AF). Is this a value bet, or should I take the free card?

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero...

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Bet for value in a large pot, with position. There are a lot of cards in the deck that can help you on the turn, and you might even get a free card...

[MrWookie]

Not me, but many do. HU, I check this, but since there are four players, I bet. Against SB, his range very likely has either 3 outs against us, or we have 2 or fewer outs ourselves. I guess sometimes this is TT, but not often. This is virtually never QJ from SB, so he seldom has 6 outs to beat us. However, the other guys will have 6 or more outs to beat us between the two of them quite often. We discount K's somewhat based on their checks (until they tell us otherwise), and that's great for us.

[bung]

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I don't know why this would qualify as a "suspicious check". You guys always C-bet into 3 players in the worst position?

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If I just raised pf, I could check into 3 players from the SB if the flop missed me completely. But if I 3-bet, I would have to c-bet the flop regardless, especially in a large pot.

[cold_cash]

Bet.

The pot's big and you might be winning.

[BigBadBabar]

i'd bet